09 TE310 Pre purchase info and ?'s....

Hi
I'm considering moving off my 04 crf250x into a 09 TE310. I've been hunting for some information and would like any input I can get.

I read one article saying that its better to remove the throttle stop, sensor off the head pipe and catalytic device and install a jumper to change the timing. has any one tried this and does it work? do you think it is necessary?

I've heard of something called "power up". Any info on what that is?

Any idea how many HP the 310 has?

also the 2010's are going to come with some different front forks, I believe "kyb". any thoughts on this? do you think it will be worth the wait for the 10's to come out or get a better price on the end of year 09's?

I weigh in around 190lbs, does any one know what the shocks and forks are sprung for? I'm to understand that these bikes might be for heavier riders vs the Japanese bike. does any one find that they needed to spend the extra $ getting the bike re valved?

Thanks for any help on you can give me on deciding to purchase one of these bikes. I'm just a trail rider and occasionally hit the small patches of woops kind of hard. I'm only interested in trail hopping on the roads as well.

Thanks
Doug

You'll find a few posts on here about the 09 TE310's, some from myself. I'll just say I wouldn't let the forks be a decider in my opinion. I've had great luck with the Zokes over the years. I'm about you same weight and don't belive I'll need to spring my bike either. As for the power up kit, it will come with the new 09's, not sure on the 10's but would image it would. I wouldn't spend a lot of time on the pavement on mine, but "trail hopping" isn't an issue. It's a dirt bike, not what I'd personally classify as a great "dual sport" bike. Long of the short, check out some of the other posts, and if you can find an 09, I wouldn't think twice about doing it again! LOVE the bike. I say go man, go!

One question I forgot to ask, I also read that some times the bike has a "flame out". what is up with that? has any one experienced this? is it an issue?

thanks again all.
doug

Rick Ramsey is selling his TE310 with a ton of goodies out in Colorado.

http://rickramsey.net/TE310.htm

Keep an open mind to the TE 250, smoother power delivery in my opinion.

Drew,
Did you get yourself a Husky?
(or perhaps your wife bought you one . . . like my Glenn did )
-Janet

Yes, the power up kit comes with the 2009's at no charge and all of the items are, for the average guy, "do-it-yourself". IMHO you should break it in as it comes from the factory just to make sure there are no issues.

As for the forks, the 2010 TE310 is one of 2 models in the 2010 lineup that will retain the 50mm Marzocchi's. I have two bikes with the 'zokes and had LTR revalve them because of my light weight and they work great now. For your more average weight, they will likely work just fine after break in just the way they are.

The 250's run strong for a 250 and you can save some $$ vs. a 310 but you'll likely enjoy more power and it is my understanding that the 310 has steel valves vs titanium on the 250 and the same bottom end components as 450/510. I agree with Coffee, the flame out issue does not seem to be an issue on the '09's even when brand new without the power up kit installed. '09 vs '10 TE310? I think a deal on a '09 TE310 is the better choice.

when i had my forks and shock modified (lowered 40mm) i asked about revalving the forks to soften it a tad and was advised to go for 5wt oil, apparently 7wt is std in my 450. i got them back lowered with the 5wt oil and it's a different bike. the shop set the sag to suit my weight and they did change the settings too. so in my case, no need to spend the extra on a revalve.

paul.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. After reading tons here and at other forums, I'm finding my self more worried then ever about this "flame out" think. I read more stuff on FI tweeking then I would have ever expected. When I look at posters signatures, I'm seeing these posts for 09 model years. So with that said, I'm thinking instead of spending $8k on a new husky, I'm just going to have to wait a bit longer and do more research. I'm just not seeing any advantage yet to FI.

thanks again for all the help.
Doug

Good plan, do your research. For the record, initially, I had some issues with my 09 TE310 dying on me, but that was within the first 20 miles. I turned the idle up just a bit, and since then, problem solved. Not an issue at all. My bikes still not got a ton of miles on it, so not fair to say it's fully broken in, but I can honestly say, if I were having those kinds of issues, I'd be EXTEMLY vocal about it. For what it's worth, for me in regard to the "advantage", it's still better than having to re-jet every time I go from 1,000 ft to 6,000 ft in elevation, or worry about the changes in temperature. Priceless! Good luck!

rejet

If you are riding in different elevation with this bike with the power up kit and the exhaust sensor unplugged it will not adjust for elevation.

Correct. Have the O2 plugged in and it works great from 1,000 to 7,500 so far. No complaints. For the bulk of my riding, I'll pull the O2 as we're between 1,000 and 1,800 or so in the AZ valley, but summer time we're all over. Love not having to goof around with jetting. Oh so simple to pull the O2 if/when the time comes.

For me, I'm riding a crf250x at about 1500' elevation. I ride all over the place with out re jetting. agreed it is rich but I can get on without thinking of re jetting. we just came back from mammoth at 6k to 8k+ and never thought twice about re jetting. I do take your point though of having the o2 sensor connected for higher elevations. However I'm still not understanding why one would need to pull the o2 sensor even if you do the rest of the "power up" stuff. now I'm to understand it changes the timing map but I'd hope there was a way to keep the o2 connected to adjust the mixture and also have the power mapping as well.

sounds simple doesn't it<G>.
thanks for the input.
Doug

The stock map is a bit leaner with the O2 sensor plugged in, that's all.
O2 sensor plugged in = lambda 1 as a target fuel ratio (14.7:1) "lean"
O2 sensor unplugged = lambda .8 as a target fuel ratio (12:1) "rich"
These are the ratio's with the O2 in vs. out (Thanks again Kleemann). It's enough that it makes a huge difference up in the 6,000+ ft. range on my bike. Have done very little riding down in the valley with the richer "power up" setting, i.e. no O2, but can tell the bike pulls a lot harder. I'm sure the EFI goo-roo's can clarify, I'm sure no expert, I just know what's workin for me, and know it's working well! Good luck!

Great info from some of the guys who responded to my initial concerns/issues
http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3255

power commander

I keep checking the Power Commander site for the release of Auto Tune. My bike at sea level seems to run lean. The engine seems to put off alot of heat and the plug in white to grey color. My dealer just got the I Beat so I'm guessing he did nothing to my fuel map when the bike was new. I runs great and starts fine. But the throttle is like a light switch in the slower stuff.

Jeff