TE/TC 14 TC250 opinions

Any opinions out there on the TC250 2t? Right now I'm riding a 07 WB165 and was thinking about trying something newer/different. any info is appreciated
Thanks

I cant help a lot but I do have a 14 TE 250 - which I guess is similar but slightly softer - Ive also owned a WB 165
The TC is a bit more aggressive in power delivery than the TE - which can be softened if needed . I think the TE is a better trail bike than the TC
unless you can ride very aggressively.
I am happy with the upgrade from a 165 . I miss the lightness of the 125 in really tight trails and over some obstacles . Also compared to say a 125 its harder to get in to the top end fun zone - the euphoria zone

Thanks rockdancer,does this engine vibrate much? I have friends with 300's and they are vibrating monsters compared to the 165,don't want that!

no they don't vibrate much - not like some 300s
The power isn't over the top on the TE so the TC may be more fun
The torque is impressive on the TE with the 36m carb and longer muffler
Ive found the 4CS to be ok - not bad at all .
Ive found someone who knows how to revalve them without major costs so Ive given them a try but yet to ride it

I think it would be a great bike! I rode a woods prepped 2016 tc 250 and loved it!!! I've since moved onto a 17 tc 250......a few things the moto bike would need for fast woods riding besides hand guards of course....flywheel weight....app 120$....why? Motor a slight handful for careful woods riding even if.you have a map switch or adjust the power valve I feel the flywheel weight benefits you a lot..... 50 tooth rear sprocket and o ring chain....app 135.00$ everyone kmows you should run and o ring chain off road....stock gearing to tall for serious work....my 16 would burn around in third gear with this setup! Yes almost complete ability to stop and leave in third!! Rolled around almost like a 300 without making u lazy or vibrating your hands to.sleep. .larger fuel tank Te works fine...app 245$ stock tank ridiculous for serious off road....revalve front and rear suspension.... App cost $350 for basic revalve from halls...stock I'm sorry to stiff....biggest advantage (and many will arque) with a tc over a Te is weight savings!!! Approximate 17 pounds That's huge to me! A 2017 tc 250 only weighs 212 pounds dry A husky red 144 Cr weighs app 206 pounds....in my years of riding I have not made a definitive decision as to if I am faster on a 144 or 250....I am 5'7" OK I am shrinking as death approaches.... But I weigh 164.8 pounds...so a smallbore is OK but I would prefer to weigh 155 for a small bore... The euphoria zone on a 144 is blood rushing.... There is no better feeling then a 144 jetted on the verge of lean at full tilt reeling in 300's and 450's and hearing people talking after a race..(who the f...... Was that on that little husky...did you hear that thing??? And yes your wife will know its you coming to a checkpoint.... However every mistake will cost you a few seconds.....with the advantage a eight year old can kickstart it and if you stall it...it does not have enough compression to drag the back tire to a stop like a 250 will....however... I like roll on power.... Torque... And on a dirt road roll on power and for that a 250 is a better weapon in my opinion...for what you throw at the tc u may be able to get a Te for roughly the same...I believe a 14 tc weighs in at around 216 pounds.. With the only major advantage on a 17 in my opinion are looks...seat height feels a little lower...four pounds..and the big thing having a counterbalancer... I think you would probably like it and if a serious racer a much less intense mission and a bit more versatile for hill climbing...if you don't like it you could resell it....

Wow fletchman45 thanks for all the info!
All I ride are mountain single tracks so this bike sounds like it should be a good pick.

One other thing if u r running a pre 09 chassis I believe the true dry weight of a 125 Wr (although advertised as less) ready to go without fuel is 227-228 pounds....so the tc is lighter! Which I find funny....the old red Wr 250's are right around 235 pounds...if your short they sell a husky hard parts complete seat with gripper cover and app 13 mm 1/2 inch reduction in seat height... Think I paid around 135.00$ for one on my 15...(not 16) was a noticeable difference.... My c rider buddy bought my bike and for sure seems like he is riding better then ever...ergonomically while I rate the red husky x-lite chassis 09-14 on par with the 14 up KTM(husky) I think both are improvements in my opinion to the older chassis huskys...I've owned a boatload of husky 125's and like those older ones ..but the newer chassis bikes seem to have better overall ergos as far as footpeg to seat height etc....that old Italian motor is pretty bullet proof for sure... Someone else on this form can help but I think the 14,did not have the 4cs fork that so many complain about on this forum (never rode it stock was revalved by halls from new) and felt good...the juice clutch will be close to as light as your 125-165 's well lubricated cable....some will complain the tc has a 19 inch rear wheel..... But honestly I've had many of both.and never really noticed any difference either in traction or flat tires. (Te has 18") Tc's don't seem to hold value quite as good as a Te which is good for you! Also good is everyone has got so lazy they make every excuse for wanting electric start (app ten pounds) with this being said you will get a little better deal on the tc...if its a clean low hour bike I think you will like it...my 15 handled pretty nicely...and was pretty stable..vibration is noticeably more then the smallbore but not unbearable... I had a Scotts rubber submount so it wasn't bad...not sure if there is a cheap way.to have rubber mount bars it not... Ironically my beta didn't even have rubber mount where as most my old red huskys did!

Thanks again for even more info!
Here is the bike and the list of what was done to it.Also comes with an oversized tank!
Seems like a good deal?

I prefer a more stock look but seems like its had some love. And the longer it sits unsold the more you can negotiate the price. Seems to have some nice extra thrown at it. Any clue on how many hours on it?

Man if you just ride Mountain single track I am not sure that it would be a great bike, looks like it was set up for fast desert racing or mx. I own 2013 wr165 all set up for off road and a 2012 ktm 250sx my track and snowbike. For track and snowbike sx works great but for off road the sx is just not that good unless you are a AA rider that goes really fast over everything and there no first gear slipping the clutch nasty stuff the bike will tire you out they do not like going slow. I do way better off road on my wr165 than sx and 250sx has flywheel weight, softer suspension (vet track style or xc) Kreff powervalve adjuster,map switch, tried down to 12/50 sprockets but still just not a off road bike. Look for a xc or xc-w lower compression engine less snap broader powerband is better for nasty single track off road. I am buying a te250 or 250xc-w for my next only riding off road bike.

Pedec,thanks for your input.I may just send my motor off to Walt and have him make my bike a 177.After 7yrs I'm starting to get bored with the 165,that's what got me looking at the 250 but the 165 has never let me down and done everything you could ask,a little more HP would be great!
I'm not a AA rider and the single tracks I ride take more finesse than speed,the 250 might be too much?
So the 250sx is enough power to run those tracks? cool,I always wanted to try them.

Ya the 250sx runs the timbersled sx (Short narrow track) really good, a real hoot to ride. I know what you mean about wanting more power and needing something different than wr165. I have been running little husky since 2010 great bikes. Rode a 2017 150xc-w and found my wr165 felt just as good power wise actually my wr is jetted way better with lectron. I do not think a 177 would add that much more or worth cost. I am not saying do not go 250 just not a 250sx type of 250. Get a Beta 250rr te250 250xc-w which are set up for what you need. I rode a Beta 250rr at a demo day last fall and it was really nice bike for nasty single track night and day differance than my sx. I could ride Beta 250rr for 2 hour at race pace I think no problem might be even easier than wr165.

Pedec,
My friends all have either pumpkin 300's or beta Xtrainer's and I've had seat time on them all but don't feel it's worth the $7k for me as they didn't seem that much better,the bang for the buck wasn't there.
This 250 was not that expensive which got me interested but now I don't think it would be a good fit for me.The 165 has never been opened up since it was new that's why I was thinking of sending it to Walt to check it out and while it was there make it a 177.
Thanks again for all the info!

Don't think I could part with my '12 WR144- for the southeast tight trails it's a dream.

Understand your point to the high cost of new bikes... rode a few of them, but always feels good to be back on the little smoker. At 50 years young and 215# it pulls any hill climb I've attempted, at times leaving the bigger bore bikes mid hill due to their wheel spin.

Its all up to u...I am a fairly fast old guy (a rider) my 15 tc 250 with nothing more then a 50 tooth rear sprocket and a flywheel weight... Felt great ....and I mean great....but yes like I said stock suspension as with any moto bike will suck in the woods...I choose tc over a Te for mostly one reason weight or lack of it....if I don't need a headlight estart etc....I say what's the point...you will pay a penalty with top speed...lacking the six speed...I loved my 144's but what a do or die intense mission.... The reality is why there are few people and I mean few who are faster on smallbores the truth is the majority of people can ride a 250 two stroke faster....just look at the double a guys in each state how many are on smallbores?? Honestly let's be real....the ideal bike would of been and red Italian 200 with a 48,mm marzocchi fork and and ohlins shock and a dry weight of 204 pounds.....simple..

They are super tough bikes.

A wr165 make you think you are a AA rider until a AA rider passes you on a 250-300 then reality set in. But I have beat lots of 450-250-300 2-4 strokes on my 165 all except one guy this year in my class masters (old slow guys). It all about the rider alway will be. 85% rider 15% equipment unless everybody is the same speed then 15% makes a big difference.

This is exactly why I cant say without certainty if I am faster on a 144 or 250 two stroke.... Mostly rider but bike does play I say 15-20%...a 2012 gas gas makes me a crappy rider between the excessive weight and horrible steering lock to lock...bike plain did not work...like wise a stiff bike makes me app 25% slower or so...its a tough call but I think most b or c riders would be faster on a 250 simply because in tight woods you can make less mistakes....if the race is perfect...no hills not super sandy and the gods are with you...I'd say 144....if there are long straights.... Hills etc....I'd personally give the nod to the 250... Unless your related to Fred hoses...