1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

175 / 390 Build

Discussion in 'Vintage Restoration Projects' started by Tommyboy, Oct 15, 2014.

  1. Tommyboy Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tampa, Florida
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983/84 WR500
    Other Motorcycles:
    1983 Maico 490, 2008 KTM 300XC
    Looking to put a 1978 390 motor into a 1975 175 frame. Other than the motor, electrical, carb, and exhaust any roadblocks ahead? Maybe the motor mounts?
  2. troy deck Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Republic MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 250wr 12 cr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kx65 ty80 rm80 kdx250
    bet it bolts right in but what do i know i was 9 in 75:excuseme:
  3. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    You may need to reject the carb or change it to a mikuni 38'm if it's not.
    Take it easy with the 390 for a while this engine has lots of power over the 175.
  4. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I look at the older 125/175 pictures without ever seeing one in person and the frames all look the same size?
    Did husqvarna use the same frame for all the bikes of that 70's decade? If so was the bike under powered became of the weight of the frame with the 125/175 engines? If so that 390 engine your going to feel like your riding a rocket. To me the 390 is one hairy and wild ride, my 79 390cr was.
  5. grouty Auto Lover ...

    Location:
    South West UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    78 390WR, 78 390 AMX, 500 Humph
    Other Motorcycles:
    works 73 CCM 520, another 73 CCM520
    Most ML frames are very similar. The early ones used a 'loose ball' head stock bearing (which can be a pain). This was up to late 76/77 on some models.
    From about 77/78 on they used a taper roller bearing here. There were variations in headstock angle too between the CR, WR and OR models.
    I think the 125's had a "short tab" mounting plate where the swing arm pivot goes through the frame.

    To fit your 390 into that early frame I would think all you need to find are the engine mounting plates front and rear. As well as the parts listed above.

    I am sure Claude will be able to shine more light on this than me.
  6. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    According to this article the 175 is not a built up 125, & uses the same crankcase, gearbox, clutch & reed valve unit as the 250, 360 & 400. The forks are also different then it's larger counterparts, it should have Spanish Betors same as the 125's . 390 was made from the 360, so it will fit, except 390 has 2 front motor mounts, 360 only had one.

    1975-husqvarna-175-off-road-test-1.jpg
  7. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    The 175 is probably a smaller bore 250?
  8. Tommyboy Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tampa, Florida
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983/84 WR500
    Other Motorcycles:
    1983 Maico 490, 2008 KTM 300XC
    Looking at the rear swingarm. The stock swingarm probably needs to be longer for more stability. The made them longer after 76 and longer again in 80. I will have to get some measurements posted up to see what fits my frame. Also thinking about a more modern rear shock setup. Maybe a 82 Ohlins piggyback pair. This might work for the longer swingarm. If not, I have a pair of remote resiviour Ohlins shocks I can have rebuilt.
  9. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    Looking at the rear swingarm. The stock swingarm probably needs to be longer for more stability. The made them longer after 76 and longer again in 80. I will have to get some measurements posted up to see what fits my frame. Also thinking about a more modern rear shock setup. Maybe a 82 Ohlins piggyback pair. This might work for the longer swingarm. If not, I have a pair of remote resiviour Ohlins shocks I can have rebuilt.

    Make sure you check the swingarm width, because you may have to change rear wheel too or at very least make
    some custom spacers. I know a 76 wheel won't directly fit a 79 swingarm as the 79 arm is wider.

    Husky John
  10. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I have a dumb question sorry. In another post why do they shorten the longer steel swing arm on the '83 milk truck bikes? Is the wr frame is the swing arm longer than the cr swing arm?

    Would the shorter swing arm, with the shorter wheel base turn quicker in motocross and the tighter turns in the woods during hare scrambles? Is there an advantage with the shorter swing arm over the longer one?
  11. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    The CR/XC swingarm is longer than the WR swingarm by at least about 1.25" for the 1983s About the same as the 1982s except the 1983 shock position is further forward on the 1983 swingarms