1982 CR430 Rear Brake Plate

Husky experts I could really do with some advice. I have a 81/82 CR430 which has a floating back brake. I have attached pictures. The problem is that is don't think the Brake plate is the correct one for the Hub, but cannot identify what year is may be. I'm pretty sure the hub is a correct 82. The plate centre spins has rubber o-ring on outside and brass protruding centre on the inside. (see pic)

The bike is new to me and I recently took it out and the brake kept failing, felt like the shoes where so worn that the cam was flipping over central.
However when I took it to bits the shoes didn't look bad, however they did look a little narrow and because they don't sit all the way into the Hub they had an unworn a ridge on the out side. almost looked as though the shoes should be offset a little so they sit better into the Hub.

I have an 81 XC 430 so I took the shoes out of that and sat them in the CR and noticed that they didn't fit. The shoes out of the XC are genuine 30mm 151654301 part nbr so are correct but are a lot wider than unmarked shoes in the CR. According to the parts manual these shoes should fit any husky rear XC CR from 81 - 84

So even if I purchased a new set of genuine husky shoes 15-165-43-01 they would not fit as they would be too wide for current plates cam and opposite pin.

Can anyone help me identify the brake plate and then maybe I can get the correct shoes.
Although the cheap after market narrow shoes do appear to be the correct shoes to fit the slightly narrower cam and apposite pin.

many thanks Shunter.

Sorry also posted shot of the Hub recessed side to show that I think its genuine.
many thanks
Shunter

Looks to me like your hub is the WR/XC type. The CR rear brake does not fit the WR/XC hub correctly. You will need the CR hub. Hope this helps,
Marty

The brake drum on the CR hub extends above the outside of the hub and the groove in the backing plate floats over the drum lip. You can use a WR backing plate as it will sit in the recess at the top of the drum. You will need a mount point on your swingarm for a brake stay or modify your existing floating arm tovwork with the WR backing plate. Assuming of course there was one on the bike

Thanks guys for your comments, the more I think about it you are correct. The hub I i think it is an XC and a CR plate. Now I have an idea, I think the XC hub on my other bike has the lip that the CR plate needs to sit square. So I will see if I can take the hub of the XC a marry it up with the CR plate. Visa versa as suggested by jimspac if will try the CR hub with the XC plate and see if it sits inside the hub. I may need to create some spacers, watch this space

Thanks guys for your help on this.

I have sorted the issue by swapping the wheels over on my 2 bikes.

I now have the wheel of my long standing 81 XC (conical shaped hub, slight lip on it and no recess inside the drum) swapped onto the recently purchased 82 CR. Because the XC hub has a lip on it, the CR floating brake plate design sits over the lip and break shoes now sit all the way in as it has no 5mm recess in hub.

The 81 XC now has the 82 CR wheel in it (not conical in shape, no lip on hub, but has 5mm recess in drum). The XC brake plate now actually sits flush inside the drum, which it didn’t before (hope this is OK), as I have taken out the spacer that used to sit inside the old hub and replaced it with an external spacer to align the wheel correctly in the swinging arm.

I’m just hoping that I have not inadvertently made a mess of both rear brakes, and for the true husky connoisseurs of you out there, I hope the fact I have mixed years and models doesn’t keep you awake at night. Truth is I want to race both bikes and not spend a lot of money at the moment !!

I promise to take some pics this weekend when I return from business, to show the results as both bikes are looking pretty sweet.

The only niggle I have at the moment is that after swapping everthing over the tyre of the CR (part of the original XC wheel i swapped) appears very close to the chain. The chain appears to align so maybe the wheel just needs pulling over a touch with some spoke tightening.

Many thanks

Shunts.

You may just need to play with wheel spacers

Pics of brake plates in situ