1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

1984/1985 500AE

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by NYWR430, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. NYWR430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NY
    I recently acquired a 1985 500 Automatic. Does anybody have a link to download the shop manual for the engine on this bike? Thanks.
  2. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    The engine is pretty much the same as the water cooled 430 ones. The drive stub is a little longer and has an oil passage instead of turning the water pump, the crank cavity is larger and the primary side cover is a little thicker but the insides seem the same to me. I have the automatic supplement that came with an 1986 430 auto but it isn't really a shop manual. It isn't in computer friendly form either. It could be copied and mailed if you don't get closer to what you seek.

    Fran
  3. NYWR430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NY
    Thanks for the info.
    I've been reading about the correct automatic oil to use. It seems like the Ohlins shock oil is the most readily available. Any recommendations on the correct weight Ohlins shock oil to use? 5 weight? I have absolutely no experience with these transmissions and trying to take it slow to avoid a costly mistake. Thanks.
  4. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
  5. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    If you go to section 5 page 17 the drawing at the top shows the springs and center of the 500 auto. The picture at the bottom shows the springs and center of the 430 auto. It looks like there are holes for the earlier springs in my judgement.

    Thanks Michael, in a way I was happier with the automatic bikes until I found this site and read some of the service bulletins. It seems you are supposed to change all the one way clutches every 600 miles according to one of them.
  6. NYWR430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NY
    Yes, thanks for the link to that service manual. I found the reference to the Univis J-26 oil in there and have been calling local suppliers to try and find it. The bike also has a round style taillight on the rear fender and the bulb is missing. Any ideas on what bulb# that taillight might be?
  7. FirstEliminator Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North Adams, Massachusetts
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    couple good ones and a few projects
    Other Motorcycles:
    some Bergs
    Just curious, was this the bike in Cheshire, MA?
  8. NYWR430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NY
    I believe it was.
  9. FirstEliminator Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North Adams, Massachusetts
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    couple good ones and a few projects
    Other Motorcycles:
    some Bergs
    I live only a couple towns north of Cheshire and I was pondering over looking at the bike. Glad someone on here ended up with it.
  10. NYWR430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NY
    The bike runs and drives great. The plastics are a little beat up and the kick starter slips, but it was a fair deal in my book. It has a very good home now and will be fully restored eventually.
  11. NYWR430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NY
    So I can't seem to find the Univis J26 or Univis HVI 26 oil for the auto tranny. This oil supposedly crosses to a Shell oil called Tellus S2 V32 which is readily available. Anybody else try this alternate oil or know of a local supplier in the northeast who can get the Univis 26? I know that I can use the Ohlins shock oil, but would prefer more of a bulk supply (5 gallons).
  12. fabrice Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boucau Bayonne Biarritz FRANCE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Automatic's
    the Motul Univis J-26 , it's the old references
    today it's Motul HVI-26
  13. moretoys Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NorthEast USA
  14. NYWR430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NY
    Thanks for all the information. I searched for hours and couldn't find anybody online to buy the oil from. Thanks for the link.
  15. moretoys Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NorthEast USA
    I'm glad you appreciated my post as most see the price and complain.

    As an exercise, let's do the math on the 5 gallon pail. The 5 gallon pail is just shy of 19 liters of fluid. If the 500AE is like the 420AE it will take 1 liter per change. Figure the cost of the pail plus the crazy shipping costs these days and the pail will be close to $200 now. That works out to $10.52 per liter for the Univis 26. Oh, I forgot to address the Ohlins shock oil....now that's expensive! Close to $30 a liter. As a comp, I just went to the Autozone website and they have Mobil 1 Synthetic motor oil for $8.99/qt (not that you'd be putting engine oil in a trans). The way I justified buying a pial of Univis HVI 26 was by knowing that Husky automatic transmission parts are very hard to find now as you can't just go to the dealer for them. Plus I wanted the bike to work properly in all conditions. For me it was worth it but everybody has a different viewppoint and I respect that.

    Hopefully you'll get your 500AE back on the trails soon and get to enjoy the experience!
  16. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    Just for a comparison perhaps in the mid nineties when they obseleted the husky transmission fluid in the quart plastic bottles it cost about $8.50 if I recall. A 5 gallon pail from an exxon distributor cost about $50 and they just got in with a bunch of other stuff and there was no charge for shipping. I recently got a quote of $172 and $50 shipping from a bearing outlet which had pails of exxon or mobil stuff on the wall. The link you got above should give you enough of a product id to see what a local distributor would charge.

    I am pretty sure the 420 holds more when filled to the little plug on the side than the 430. Yes the 500 has a slightly larger cover on the left so it will hold a bit more than that.

    And how many first gear clutch kits do you think correspond to one pail? I think I got about 6 enduros in the c class perhaps houring out some of the time on a clutch kit in the 430. I hear A riders needed a new kit each time but none of them entered them any more by the time I got mine.

    One more amusing thing is that I bought a quart or perhaps a liter bottle With the husky stuff on the side. It definately says univis J26 on the card which came with the bike for all the specifications which normally are in the owners manual for brand x. The genuine exxon univis doesn't smell the same as the genuine husky fluid. At least my bottle and my pail. Apparently now it is branded Mobil.