1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

1986 WR 400 Crank Seal question

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Steve Markham, May 4, 2016.

  1. Steve Markham Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 WR 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    Harly FXD, Honda XL350R, Honda XR100
    I am trying to replace the crank seals on my 86 WR 400. I was told by someone with way more knowledge than myself that I could do this without splitting the case. I was able to get the seal replaced on the stater side, but when I tried on the clutch side I pulled off the plate bolted around crank shaft to the inside case expecting to see a seal, but saw ball bearings instead. Any guidance is greatly appreciated!
  2. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    Need to split the cases to replace clutch side seal, only mag side you can do without splitting them, as you've already found.
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  3. Steve Markham Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 WR 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    Harly FXD, Honda XL350R, Honda XR100
    Thanks! I looked through the many diagrams and see where the seal is now. How easy and accurate is it to do a leak down test yourself?
  4. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    We need to inspect the tranny side bearing and replace the ignition side bearing when we do the crank seals.
    If I don't bad karma kicks in and I end up doing the job twice if not right the first time.
  5. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    Because of the age just replace the seals now and save yourself the consequences of an airleak once you start running it. Viton seals are the best since you do not want to split the cases twice. Phillip has them at www.husqvarna-parts.com. After checking prices at a few bearing suppliers, his price for them is competitive.
  6. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    But if the crank bearing is bad by having play in it by not changing it, it's bound to air leak then seeze.
  7. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    no ones saying to leave bearings in that are bad..jim is saying to just replace the seals instead of a leakdown test..
    it is unusual for the crank bearings to go bad however..they seem to last about twice as long as any of the transmission bearings. i clean em and run em if they are good. i do periodically check the mag side bearing so im not ignoring it for years. the ridiculous output side crank bearing is stout...
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  8. Steve Markham Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 WR 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    Harly FXD, Honda XL350R, Honda XR100
    My initial start of the bike produced a TON of smoke, we drained a lot from the exhaust afterwords, and I initially had a hard time getting it started. All that led me to think the crank seals might be bad. Bearings looked stout on both sides, and I changed the seal on the motoplat side because I had a new one that came with the bike. Now however after running it, there is no oil dripping out either end of the exhaust pipe, and the bike starts fairly easy. I haven't procured a case splitter yet, but will soon. Any suggestions on where to find one?
  9. grouty Auto Lover ...

    Location:
    South West UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    78 390WR, 78 390 AMX, 500 Humph
    Other Motorcycles:
    works 73 CCM 520, another 73 CCM520
    When you strip it check the crank stub shafts for wear. They can create quite a groove in the shafts and no end of seals will cure the problem.
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  10. GaryM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Austin, Tx
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1981 430cr second 430 CR 500cr
    Other Motorcycles:
    1981 490 Maico
    You know for the amount of work to split the cases. Your really talking about 60 dollars for three main bearings. Always change the spocket output
    bearing because of built in seal. Maybe another 16 dollars. That would be two SKFs and ZKL double row main max capacity C 3 main.
  11. 84scrambler Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    mid Florida
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 xc 250, 85 wrx 250, 79 wr 250
    Metric seals have the good red viton seals as well, they are nice to deal with too. I think they are in Indiana.
  12. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    the tusk universal case splitter we have discussed here works well..it will work on many bikes too. i use my own bolts for it but its solid. you will also need a "crank puller" or another tool to reassemble things again..i use the factory husky tool for this, but there is a tusk tool also. "eurotrash" also makes a reproduction of the factory tool.
    i take it the crank has no up/down (radial) play? have you split cases before?