1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

2 stroke oil in 4 banger fuel

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by ghte, Oct 14, 2009.

  1. ghte Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bright, Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2 x 310's, 2016 Beta 480, SWM RS650
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 Multi ,Griso1100, Monster695
    A Husky/Yammy dealer told me that these bikes have 2 comp rings and an oil ring. The top comp ring can run a bit dry in the lube department and hasten ring and bore wear. This shop also races the bikes and they do the following.
    Put in 50 mills of fully synthetic 2 stroke oil to every 10 litres of fuel.
    This not only protects the bore and rings providing longer life it also helps cushion the valves and valve seats. The cushioning eliminates the need to use expensive valve addatives as well. Net net a good result. I honestly believe that my 06 TE 450 feels a tad smoother. I understand that Hondas and KTMs only have one comp ring and dont need this, however one ring set ups loose longevity V's 2 ring set ups I believe.

    Give it a whirl and lets share your findings.

    PS.Don't use 4 stroke oil as it really fouls the plugs very quickly-its not designed to burn as much as 2T oil.

    Cheers.
  2. tadgh Husqvarna
    A Class

    i think the 250 only has one from what i can see, must be the 450s up?
  3. johnnym Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    South Africa
    Not on the bike bit I have been running 2T (mineral) in my Nissan Diesel for about a year now. 200ml to (a tank) 83lt.
  4. wulf22 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Utica, NY
    I use Lucas upper cyl. lube. With the poor lubrication in todays fuel I would think this has to help greatly. I use it in all my bikes and my 4t snowmobile.
  5. MOTORHEAD Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Mount Vernon, Indiana
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2014 YAMAHA YZ250
    This is something that's been done by many for a long time, mainly in road racing. The hot set-up use to be a little bit of Castor based oil mixed into the fuel. Most modern synthetic 2T oils are an ester based, Castor like molecule anyway, so it's about the same.
  6. highdez1981430cr Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley,Ca.
    But you gotta love that castor oil smell : )

    I run Amsoil 2 stroke outboard oil in my gas tank for my 4 stroke bikes.
    The outboard oil burns super clean as it is designed for outboards that do alot of slow trolling so it is engineered to resist plug fouling.

    The Lucas stuff is good too but runs a little dirty.
  7. NumberCruncher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Wa State
    I am assuming it must be a really lean ratio like 200:1 or so?

    NC
  8. Dirtdame Administrator

    Location:
    Rock Springs Wy
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300,13 WR125,18 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    17 Beta Xtrainer
    I only run two stroke mix in my four strokes when red sticker season is over and I have to drain the two stroke bikes so they can sit, twiddling their thumbs for the summer. I don't reckon that I am hard enough on my four strokes to warrant a mix.
  9. 510te Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    australia
    what about injection on the 08 09s? would it still spray properly through the injector?
  10. petem Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Andover, UK
    "I love the smell of Castrol R in the morning... smells like victory." :D
  11. ghte Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bright, Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2 x 310's, 2016 Beta 480, SWM RS650
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 Multi ,Griso1100, Monster695
    Yes the ratio recommended is 50 mills per 10 litres. Its a good question about the efi bikes-does any one out there know if it works for them as well. Also note that the oil also helps with valve and valve seat wear so its a double whammy effect.
  12. lairpost Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Vista, CA
    Marvel Mystery oil and 2 cycle oil, has been run for years though injectors. Search a bit and you'll find it's as controversial as 'what oil should I run'.

    The ethanol content in pump gas may very well be a good reason to add a little 'upper cylinder lubricant'. 1oz per 5 gal, 640:1.
  13. highdez1981430cr Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley,Ca.
    UUUHHH-RAAHH semper fi to two strokes
  14. MOTORHEAD Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Mount Vernon, Indiana
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2014 YAMAHA YZ250
    As lairpost pointed out, it's a somewhat controversial issue, like any oil question, but most run ratios of +200:1 and it seems to have no effect on EFI.
  15. demi Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Cheyenne, WYO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    12 WR 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 SH 500, 81 Gilera 125 C1, 17 KTM
    I run 25-30cc/1oz. to 2 gallons of Marvel Mystery Oil for my '08 TC 510 and '07 TC 450...been doing it for years with my Bergs, VOR's,etc....seems to work well.
  16. highdez1981430cr Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley,Ca.
    Hey number cruncher you are pretty close, so check my math here.

    I run it 300 to 1 which is 16.88 cc per gal.

    Since there are 30 cc per oz.

    that means that you would have to put in 2.813 ozs for 5 gallons of gas or 84.38 cc

    Howz that for a bean counting response that you can sink your calculator into : )
  17. columbia510 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    columbia,ca
    Thats beautiful. I put in 2 cap fulls. Thats my math.
  18. highdez1981430cr Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley,Ca.
    I have way too much time on my hands