2015 Beta info - EFI

Only on the 350RR.
Carbs on the Beta's are as very good very little if any tweeking are required with them.
From sea level to 14,000 with only adjustment to fuel screw.
Of course if staying at altitude a little leaning might be in order.
EFI is a PIA and to much of a risk for leaving you stranded.
Later George

After now having 2 FI bikes I agree with George, in my opinion the beauty of the Beta is the use of the latest and greatest highest tech carbs. When I'm in the hills of the middle of baja(or someother middle of nowhere spot on the map) and my bike keeps stalling......I can drop the float bowl and clean my pilot and continue my ride.....I like that non-PITA idea. we just have too much dust entering all over on our bikes. Truth is my Mikuni TE310 system never gave me problems the 2013 TXC310R always had FI issues ( all the problems have been solved from my due diligence and through my cursing and race anxiety, new owner is super stoked)

No step backward for Beta, but why change something that is not needed.
Beta unlike Husky spent a lot of time and money with Keihin on their FCR to get it right, and they did.
It's not an off the shelf FCR like Husky used.

Only must items for these carbs are Up-Tite Vent filter and a R&D flex jet.
If the Beta battery goes dead, just kick it and keep giong.

No water temp sensers to fail, relays to fail,fuses to come apart and fail,fuel pumps to fail,fuel connections to fail,wire harnesses and connections to fail,fuel filters that split, ECU's that fail battery issues even simple loose connection draining battery so it won't start and keep running. Dead or weak battery, faulty charging system= no run.
No Dobeck EJK aka (JD) or Dyno Jet reqiured no I Beat , HSI required. To find out where to put $$$ to fix it.
That is of course after it has been towed back out or Helo'd out.
Riding a bike out of middle of no-where with carb issues is much easier than being towed or walking resulting from EFI failures of which there are many.

Your right, To each his own.
Later George

The long list is from the forums here on CH, and the many many bikes I have repaired and got running for customer that weren't my customers before they came here looking for the help they couldn't find where they made thier bike purchase.
Carb vent keeps dirt out carb so slide ($185.00) and body($685.00) don't wear out all carb'd bikes need these.
Keeps Intake valves from wearing out due to dirt getting into carb via vent hoses.
Ever see dirt on the inside of the cap of a carb?
This dirt is so fine it passes thru the jets without plugging the jets. Most common reason intake valves tighten-up. 8-9000 rpm valve lapping going on.
Re shim couple times then it's $190.00 each for the TI valves. $35.00 for the carb vent filter is cheap insurance.
Flex Jet not so much a must but when you get tank full of gas and has too much alcohol in it can richen it up or going up in altitude above 10,000 can lean it down without having to stop pull out special screwdriver stand on your head to find where the fuel screw is and try to adjust it, with flex jet just reach down and do it on the fly. For $40.00 kinda nice little item, but not a must.
Your pushing the Lectron carbs they have been around since about 1977, They were first the Lake Injecter called EI then were Edilbrock came OEM on KTM 500 and 600 were a disaster. Still have a New In Box EI am sure many changes have been made with them since new owners and name changes.
From the threads sound the same either work great or don't without making parts changes just like a carb. Thought you lost a gen.
Later George

"new carbed KTM out of the woods as they like to set the float levels absurdly high it all the fuel flows out onto the trail and 20 miles in your out of gas."

sounds like my TE300.

that carb vent hose filter thing is a must (we are in dry dusty zone here). Ive scooped (exagerated of course) dirt and dust out from the top of FCR slides. Also remember climate will have different final effects on systems. PNW/eastern not as much year round dust as us dez zone folks have. the fact is that KTM and this years Husky have had numerous DNFs due to clogged filters and injectors in this region. I believe thats due to our overly dusty conditions. Odd that Dakar and other offroad racing burried in dust with everything injected doesnt suffer as much?? better anti dust measures than stock/oem set ups???
I was 100% into the FI thing as everyother dang vehicle is injected,,, but had many curses during intense riding when my 310 would flame out and not relight than run great for miles then at the worst possible time do the same. I was yelling I wish this thing had a carb it would run better. would it?? I never had any issues with any of my FCR Keihins after personall setup was done. ride what you like, I am back to carburator bikes again but I am also back to 2 stroke bik again, more fun for the $.

I looked into buying the Quicksilver stuff from Edelbrock a few years ago. It all came down to my lame ass cousin - who builds Harley customs - telling my funding guys/partners 'carbs are out, EFI is the way to go'
I got help from them for my first Dakar bike, a 650r back in '03/'04 when i was building it out. Raced plenty in baja with the quicksilver (now a Lectron). That technology in one form or another goes way back. Its a nice product. Remember when KTM's came stock with them!?

Woulda coulda shoulda.

When I was thinking of buying Quicksilver from Edelbrock i was kinda seeing it. I was then on the cutting edge of 'these EFI things just dont work for long haul dirt bike riding' But then i was also the one who called it on SCORE, predicted BMW selling Husky (i was off by just a few months!!), electric bikes are the future (the guy who slammed me now sells ebikes!) and on and on. LOL. Its all good.

I can go on and on about being let down by the complex multitude of parts that go into a EFI bike. And while the throttle bodies have by now been largely sorted, the many complex parts that go into a system will always make it less reliable than a simple carb, and thats the rub.

No doubt EFI can be made to work very well. Might even get slightly better throttle response and fuel economy. But like Aluminum frames, just cause one can do it, dont make it a better way to go-at least for what i ride.

If BETA ends up all EFI, well to me thats a step sideways. I like to ride far and wide into very very remote places, usually in Baja. I need a system thats simple and stone reliable.

My BETA 450's carb is simply amazing. Great fuel economy. Perfect off throttle response. No flare outs. As with any carb its easy to work on. I hope they dont go to all EFI.

Its all good. See you guys in 6 months.

If you didn't keep it pinned with front wheel in the air, float level wouldn't be to high.
Later George

I have to agree with George, Beta has the bike dialed in spot on with a carb. Absolutely no reason to add fi.