1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

87 WR 250 WON'T START

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by woodsguy, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. woodsguy Husqvarna
    C Class

    Location:
    NEW HAMPSHIRE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1987 WR 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    93 XR650L,2003 concours,2008 KTM 300
    Hi,
    New to the vintage left kicker world and love it. Well loved it until my 87 WR stalled and wouldn't start again. Just picked it up this year and with a carb rebuild and few other wear parts replaced was running and riding great. During my last ride was doing a long technical single track through woods and stalled it in a mud hole. Bike didn't start again and noticed kick start not catching correctly. Brought it home and repaired kick start (pawl spring collapsed) and adjusted clutch, cleaned carb and new plug just for added measure. Still won't start unless towed behind my truck. Once running will only stay running half to open throttle. No idle or bottom end.

    I would appreciate any ideas for I am at a loss. Good compression and spark but seems to be flooding out and bogging down up to half open throttle. Baffled because it was running great and starting 1st 2nd kick every time until that darn single track jumped out and attacked me.

    Thanks, WoodsGuy
  2. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    that was an early Mikuni flat slide and had a bad design needle and seat, try checking your fuel level
  3. woodsguy Husqvarna
    C Class

    Location:
    NEW HAMPSHIRE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1987 WR 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    93 XR650L,2003 concours,2008 KTM 300
    Interesting because it actually has a 38MM round slide carb. I have tried float level at recommended 17-19MM and have tried lowering and raising with no change.
    Needle and seat seem fine and were replaced during rebuild.
  4. wrx Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    845 newyork
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1973 to 1986 husky's various models
    Other Motorcycles:
    RM -250 / Buell / Penton 400 mc5
    low end on motoplat ignition is probably taking a Cr@p. you cant kick it fast enough to fire it, but towing it spins the motor fast enough to fire it. my 86 400WR did the same thing last summer to me. i replaced the stator and it fixed it. ps: 38mm round slide is standard on that bike. flat slide is on XC & CR models
  5. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    I stand corrected I have had an XC and have a CR still, interesting because the carb length is different
  6. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    did they use a Motoplat, odd as both my CR and XC used SEM, interesting
  7. wrx Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    845 newyork
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1973 to 1986 husky's various models
    Other Motorcycles:
    RM -250 / Buell / Penton 400 mc5
    the boot from the air box to the carb is also shorter on the WR. XC &CR have long boot to make up for carb body being shorter .all my white huskys have motoplat from the factory. my 82 wr430 (DB replica)had a SEM system. but i changed it over to motoplat. CR has MP internal rotor XC has MP external heavyweight flywheel rotor.
  8. wrx Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    845 newyork
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1973 to 1986 husky's various models
    Other Motorcycles:
    RM -250 / Buell / Penton 400 mc5
    20 plus years working for husky/penton/ktm dealer.
  9. woodsguy Husqvarna
    C Class

    Location:
    NEW HAMPSHIRE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1987 WR 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    93 XR650L,2003 concours,2008 KTM 300
    I will check the ignition tomorrow (any tips) however would this also cause the lack of idle and no low end? when I remove the plug and kick it over seems to have great spark. It seems like its just flooding 0-1/2 throttle so maybe lack of spark would stand to reason.
  10. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    my 87 CR250 has an SEM with power valve circuit, an oddity at best would not mind finding a spare for that
  11. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    open the stator cover give it a clean and blow out, carb same, check all electrical grounds and connections, clean coil wires and high tension leads and cap, clean engine vent tube and carb vent tubes, check air filter.double check pilot jet is clear.if the mud hole caused the problem then it may have water in the areas above, my moneys on stator needing a clean you should have a nice blue spark showing at regular intervals.
  12. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    my 88 xc 250 came with an sem...eventually went to a mini6 as mine was doing the infamous fire up and run backwards trick
  13. woodsguy Husqvarna
    C Class

    Location:
    NEW HAMPSHIRE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1987 WR 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    93 XR650L,2003 concours,2008 KTM 300
    thanks all for the advice. This is my first Husky and have been enjoying the project. I know all the fuel and air controls have been cleaned. Going to dig into the stator area and see what happens. Really miss riding this bike there is just something about it that gets you. My KTM EXC 300 is great for hare scrambles but the Husky just has such a unique thrill.
  14. Old Geezer Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Washington state, central desert country
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 XC500, 1985 CR500
    Other Motorcycles:
    1973 Yamaha 360 MX, Harley FatBoy

    That symptom is weirding me out. It says air leak. How are your two crank seals?
  15. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    Check the key on the flywheel....
  16. troy deck Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Republic MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 250wr 12 cr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kx65 ty80 rm80 kdx250
    yep you gotta spark issue try adding a ground wire from the stator out to a motor mount theres a link to a moto plate repairman in the links on DC plastics website
  17. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    Do a leakdown test. You need a rubber plug that can seal your exhaust and a plastic plug with a small hole through it for the intake carb mount. You can then use a Mity Vac pump to create a vacuum and it should hold steady vacuum (6psi) for at least 6 minutes. Vacuum is safer than pressurizing
  18. woodsguy Husqvarna
    C Class

    Location:
    NEW HAMPSHIRE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1987 WR 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    93 XR650L,2003 concours,2008 KTM 300
    Okay just came out of the garage. I have a motoplat mimi6 installed in the bike. Cleaned stator and all contacts, checked key on fly wheel, cleaned and checked all grounds and wire connections ect. Strong steady spark. Going to rule out electrical at this point and move on. Crank seals are in great shape and no gas or coolant in oil. Replaced gaskets on carb boots because I had them from the gasket kit I purchased. I do not have a mity vac pump so cannot check that currently. compression is at 145PSI which could be acceptable even though I read it should be around 160PSI. kicked it about a hundred times until my knees gave out with no luck. Needless to say I am baffled at this point and had enough wrenching for the day. Going to take the old reliable XR out for a spin to recover. Thanks again
  19. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    is the plug wet when you kick it?
  20. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    sounds like a non mud hole related problem, try taking the spark plug out kicking it over a few times to try and clean out any excess fuel in the engine leave fuel off and try and start with a new plug.140 psi is on the low side i try to run my two strokes 180 to 200 psi with a 1mm squish.