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TE/TC AER fork discussion

Discussion in '2st' started by LandofMotards, Jul 17, 2016.

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  1. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    I've been trying to read up on the forks. Really like the idea just because it's cool to have the latest and greatest for once. At the same time while it's the latest, it may not be the greatest lol. Some have mentioned seeing air forks collapse on other brands. I've attached an article and would like the pros here to explain why these statements are wrong or ktms design sucks like everyone elses. Figured 4cs have quite a few dedicated threads so time for some AER action :)

    http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2016/02/article/2016-wp-aer-48-air-fork-first-impression/

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    LandofMotards, Jul 17, 2016
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  2. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    my question would be about using "air" (as a compund) which has the tendency to expand with heat, would it not be best to use an inert gas like nitrogen that has low re-activity to heat as well as low impact on seal oxidation and degradation?
    robertaccio, Jul 17, 2016
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  3. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    7602 racing already has beer coozies, maybe fork coozies would sell lol.

    Only real issue with nitrogen would be test and tune. It comes with an air pump and that kind of stuff is done at the track. I've thought the same thing though especially someone like me that is normally a set it and forget it kind of person.
    LandofMotards, Jul 17, 2016
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  4. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    Just wait for the XPlor fork thread...
    Huskynoobee, Jul 17, 2016
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  5. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    I am waiting for that one...it may be on next bike
    robertaccio, Jul 17, 2016
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  6. Benjimoto Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 150xc Hypermotard sp
    Considered a TX with the Air forks but had visions of having to use the pump every time I took it out.
    Decided to wait for the TE. My 17 TE 300 arrives this week :)
    Benjimoto, Jul 17, 2016
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  7. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    Included with every new Husky purchase though
    austin-powers penis pump.jpg
    LandofMotards, Jul 17, 2016
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  8. Colo moto CH Sponsor

    Location:
    La Jara, Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    7602racing.com
    Like LOM mentioned I would guess it is a more user friendly option. Air vs Nitrogen. Air is free and everywhere. Nitrogen not so much.

    I can't remember where I read it. Was most likely a forum somewhere. There was a rider from one of the Scandanavian countries that had his AER fork collapse during some cold weather riding. Not sure if it was a one off failure, or a possible large scale issue.
    Colo moto, Jul 18, 2016
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  9. Benjimoto Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 150xc Hypermotard sp
    Hahaha love it! Baaaaby
    Benjimoto, Jul 18, 2016
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  10. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Read in one of mags that they had an issue to correct before models hit showroom floors of loosing pressure.
    dartyppyt, Jul 18, 2016
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  11. racemx904 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    owenton, ky
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 Beta 350RR & 1986 430XC
    Other Motorcycles:
    1975 Rokon and 2004 Kawasaki KX65
    Just get the spring conversion
    racemx904, Jul 18, 2016
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  12. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    Or better yet, get a pair of 4CS somebody hated and fox them.
    Huskynoobee, Jul 18, 2016
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  13. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    Remember the ideal gas law pv=nrt t being the temperature. It is the water or water vapor that makes air less than ideal and forces partial pressure of water as a function of temperature to be inserted into computations. This is basically why race cars and likely road race bikes use nitrogen in the tires. The inert part will have less effect on the seals at least I would think so.
    fran...k., Jul 18, 2016
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  14. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    Or, perhaps Boyles Law PV=k for air only. Or does that apply to the Swedish Enlarge tool at depth?
    Huskynoobee, Jul 18, 2016
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  15. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    Boyles Law PV=k is at a fixed temperature. More pressure, less volume.

    I want both of the forks the same.
    fran...k., Jul 18, 2016
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  16. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    My Swede Enlarge pump is a vacuum pump so its irrelevant to this issue. PS the thing sucks......
    robertaccio, Jul 20, 2016
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  17. octagon pilot Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Desert Southwest
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE501s 2009 TE610
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    YZ450FX Tenere 700
    octagon pilot, Jul 26, 2016
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  18. Benjimoto Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 150xc Hypermotard sp
    Benjimoto, Jul 26, 2016
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  19. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    Ben you don't belong here!! get back to the Xplor forks thread, TE man!!!
    robertaccio, Jul 26, 2016
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  20. Husky_10 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Duncan BC, Vancouver Island
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2017 Husqvarna TX 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    2006 Yamaha SP R1
    I must say, this is the first bike I have had the air forks on and they feel like the best so far. ..
    Husky_10, Sep 6, 2016
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