1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

Alloy Tank Repair

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by dingodog, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. dingodog Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    The Garden State, Au
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '73 CR125, '82 WR250,
    Other Motorcycles:
    XC150
    Hi all. I have an '82 WR250 which will be stripped down this summer and 'refurbished' so to speak. Just wondering how dents are removed without cutting the tank open? If an 'opening' is required, what precautions do you suggest.
    Thanks, DD
  2. Eurofreak Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Western NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 TE 510, 1982 CR250, 2008 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    70's Triumph , Bultaco , Maico, etc
    A good TIG welder can weld pins to the tank and the pins are pulled out to remove the tank. Sand smooth and buff after. Another option is air pressure but you can blow the seams if you're not careful.
  3. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    Auto body shops have specialists they call to remove dents. They show up with their specialty tools. If the auto body shop I have some inside information about calls in a subcontractor that might indicate similar solution. I have not had much success in cutting a hole in an exhaust to get dents out.
  4. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    With the dents in pipes I read about putting water in the pipe and letting it freeze. I would think that you need to position the pipe so that one area freezes.

    The dents in gas tanks someone cut the tank apart on the seams then removed the dents and TIG welded it back together. I need some dents removed in a few gas tanks.
  5. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I wonder if we use air pressure and lightly heat the dented area will it pop out. Very little heat.
  6. visiteur1948 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    france Europe
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    husqvarna only
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    your tank is very bad ?
    yes ?? look picture is
    only possible !

    is possible
    by tools garage
    only small dents !
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  7. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    ive seen the water freeze remove a good sized knee dint in a ts 125 tank.
  8. Eurofreak Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Western NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 TE 510, 1982 CR250, 2008 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    70's Triumph , Bultaco , Maico, etc
    Air pressure and heat will work. That's the method used for exhaust pipe repair. With an alloy tank propane or MAP gas should be enough without overheating the metal. The metal is thin on a tank so obviously you have to be careful not to melt the aluminum.
  9. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Nope! Claude correct. You cut an alloy tank apart. Remove dents, weld back up.

    Now a steel tank as long as not creased, you fill tunnel with cement, strap outsides, and can heat and use water and ice to shrink dent. Sometimes you have to cut them as well.

    Air pressure! Good way to for it to blow, tear open and cut your fingers off!

    Pipes are different story cause they are heavier gauged steel.
  10. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Here is steel tank that was smashed beyond recognition.
    I cut side out, straightened it with heat, body hammers, filed it and sanded it.
    Then you tig weld it back up, using low heat and wet rag so doesn't warp.
    Pressure test it with soapy water, send to chromers and your done.

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    oldbikedude and justintendo like this.
  11. Chayzed Pilot Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2004 TC450,1978 390CR,1983 430 Wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    A gaggle of them
    Claude and darty are correct. Do not use air on gas tanks, you will ruin it. I've seen a couple people had tried it on. Not pretty.
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  12. dingodog Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    The Garden State, Au
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '73 CR125, '82 WR250,
    Other Motorcycles:
    XC150
    Thanks for the responses chaps, what was best for cutting them open, I have an air drill with a cutting wheel. Any advice to the bloke who does the welding? Regards, DD
  13. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    been there, done that
    ruined a perfectly good tank with a small ding back in 72 or 73
    NEVER USE AIR
  14. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    advice? make sure its totally clean of gas before welding
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  15. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    I can attest to that as I kept applying more pressure because the dent was not pushing up and everywhere else became bloated and the top of the tunnel caved in closing the tunnel gap. This was on the minorly dented TT500 aluminum tank.

    Thank to listening to a knowing friend, I created a much bigger chore than I started with. Chapter 2 soon. I got some good advice from Dartyppty as he had done the same at an earlier project. So this is an example of how we learn from our mistakes and become driven to find out how to recover and move on to our objectives. And why we try to warn when we see you trod down the same path of advice that we get from those who do not see the consequences.
  16. Eurofreak Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Western NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 TE 510, 1982 CR250, 2008 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    70's Triumph , Bultaco , Maico, etc
    Wise words oh Jimspac -san. Definitly a precise job if you use heat and air pressure. Aluminum is hard to heat properly. I shouldn't have suggested it.
  17. dingodog Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    The Garden State, Au
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '73 CR125, '82 WR250,
    Other Motorcycles:
    XC150
    What do you reckon about this one, require 'opening up' to repair?
    Thanks,

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  18. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    Do not try to freeze it with water, the water will split the tank at the welded seams. I saw somewhere a video of a guy who used blocks of wood with a long C clamp to pop out dents, it worked great. I'll see if I can find it again.
  19. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    I agree "Do not try to freeze it with water" I partly messed a tank up , doing that, cause there no way to control what
    parts of it expands. It push the dent out, but push the shape of the whole tank out as well..
  20. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    Yup, I didnt do that on a tank but I did it on a pipe. The water will expand at the weakest point, which is rarely where the dent is.