All 2st Athena direct injection

Anyone else see this?

http://www.athenaparts.com/eng/blog/dicc-direct-injection-combustion-control

Yeah, I've seen that, but that YZ300 kit I had not. That's interesting.

link redirects to home page

Me too.

wierd it should work, try this


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gVeqix2Yc4


other wise i just went to you tube and typed in direct injection and got it to pop up.

Cool stuff. Can't wait to see it in production. Added complexity but largely offset by the consumption and emmissions gains over conventional 2 stroke technology. If this is reliable and works as advertised I really see no argument for the off road 4 stoke.

Thats what I don't understand, Athena makes it look like you can buy this off the shelf as a OEM. A version of it is being used by Ossa and outboard guys. Why cant Husky do this???

Direct injection has been available on two stroke outboard engines and snowmobiles for a few years now. I don't know why it is taking so long to get to motorcycles.

Frankly, DI e-tec skidoo's have a higher failure-rate than any other model they make. I know there is a fascination with it, and it opens doors to new markets, but I would really just prefer a conventional FI 2stroke 1st. They need to proceed through a natural progression of technology IMO and not put the horse before the cart.

The EPA's jackboot may not give us the luxury of waiting for natural progression.

A guy I know said he trades his ski doo in every year for a new one because the top ends go.

2 strokes have a top end?

The APT Smartcarb might send the DI to the back of the pack for awhile. Been reading up on these APT Smart carbs now for a few weeks.

It's a long thread, but read up below. Good results by those popping for the billet version. The company is working with OEM's now like GasGas and others. This keeps the simplicity of a carb bike (no added electrical circuits, no fuel pumps, no injectors etc.) with the benefits of a EFI set up (better atomization, power and torque with less emission and fuel consumption). What I really like is altitude and temp variation is accounted for by this design, NO JETTING to ever have to do. They will have a cast version out in early spring. I have been emailing them about one for a new Husaberg I am buying. I know, blasphemy on the Husky board!

http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13471
http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=463188&st=0

Companies website
https://secure.powerapt.com/smartcarb.php

Thats very interesting.

http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/apt-smartcarb.28324/

"Smartcarb" is such an oxymoron!!

It is the topends that blow on the E-tec's and often the big end also. I have no proof but IMO to get them clean, they don't run enough oil through them. They are absolutely miserly on oil consumption. So it isn't the DI componentry per-say causing the failure, but the goal of DI is clean-running and the failures are a bi-product of reaching that objective. DI doesn't produce more power than FI in fact ski-doo's SDI (semi-direct injection.... transfer-port style) made more power than their DI.