Before, during and end...

Discussion in '610/630' started by fatboycrash, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    Gudday,

    Back in 2009 I had a 610. Loved it. But the ex loved the lawyers more. :-) Finally back on my feet I went looking for another. Here's some pics of the one I found and the last 6 months.

    The bike when I first bought it at the end of last year. The irony is that the poor bloke had to sell it because his marriage had failed....

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    I wanted to give it a thorough 'going through'. It had 20,000 kilometers on it and the guy I bought it from wasn't a mechanical giant, if you get my drift... :-)

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    The almost finished (are bikes like this ever finished? I'm a serial tinkerer...) effort

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    And with the big tank.

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    Here's what I learnt, And I think it's worth passing on just as a FYI for owners of 610's.

    At 20,000 klm's (about 12000 miles for you poor bastards still stuck with that crazy system) The cam chain was totally stuffed. Top end was NOISY!. So slack that it was flapping against the reed valve in the lower cases and had damaged it. In direct contrast, the piston and bore looked like it had just left the factory. I do not exaggerate. I thought that whilst I had the bike apart I might as well do a top end refresh. Big single working hard, 20k... Sounds about right?? It might be with certain lesser bikes. The piston outer/skirt etc had NO discernable wear marks whatsoever. Considering that the piston is 300 bucks plus I could've left it alone for another 20k. But I had sucked it in and made a big order from Halls and had bought a new one, so I replaced it.

    The valves and head were fine. I replaced the valve stem seals anyway, because they came with the gasket kit. The Athena top end gasket kit was really good quality and I would not hesitate to reccomend it. I gave the valves a gentle lap. They didn't need it but I live with a 20 year motorcycle mechanic and he said "do it anyway and you know thay are right". The surprising thing was the head had some really ugly casting dags etc and 15 minutes at the factory would've cleaned the tracts up. Oh well, an ode to mass production.

    New camchain is a must. Done. Use three bond or whatever your prefered goop is AS WELL as a new gasket for the water pump. Guess how I know?? :-)

    The clutch. Yup, those cup washers were paper thin, ready to fail. In fact one of them was missing bits. Got some of those hardened ones from the bloke on ADV rider. Top bloke. Discovered that the rivets in the clutch basket can be cold worked if you use a ball peen hammer CAREFULLY.

    Gave the stock catalytic converter exhaust to a bloke I know. For 200 bucks it's been gutted and a 'sensible' repackable core has been installed. Add a JD jet kit (I refuse to own a FI dirt bike. Notice how much drama the fellas in the Dakar had??) It looks like stock, not much louder but def. helps release some of those ponies lurking inside.

    Added some 7602 radiator braces and guards. Pivot Pegz. Chain case protector thingy. 7602 fuel hose vent thingy. Ever flooded a bike while creek crossing? Save a whole lot of pain. Some new graphics, a new rear mud guard with led brake light. New consumeables, i.e. wheel bearings/chain/sprocket/brake pads. New oil and filters. Coupla personal touches.

    Still trying to get the GPR steering damper to fit. It's not GPR's fault but the tolerance thing with Huskies frame and safari tank. I just need to raise the bar mounts 5mm with some washers but It's Sunday and I dunno if I can be arsed today.. :-) I have a longer braided steel teflon brake line to fit as well as the stock is a little short now with my bar combo and hits the instruments on full extension. See above Sunday clause. :-)

    Safari tanks have REALLY lifted there game with quality. The tank is a beauty. They don't advertise it but the 610/630 tank can be ordered with a modification that allows you to put it on a carb. bike. Not that the quality at Safari was bad to start with, but I've owned Clarke, IMS and earlier Safari tanks. They are a world class product. I got lucky and scored a "factory second" It was a bit cheaper. Unless I showed you waht made it a "second" you would not know. Ever. It's some tiny discolouration flecks in the plastic on the right side. It's a dirt bike for fruits sake! Ir's meant to be dirty.

    Things still to do.

    The airbox. This is the achilles heel of this bike. What a bastard of a thing. On my last 610 I gave up and cut the guts out of it and installed a foam "pod" like the supermono guys do. There has to be something. It doesn't seal to my liking and the fasteners seize up if not paid due attention. Mine had seized. See the above machanical giant excuse.

    There are NO more carb 610 airboxes left. ZIP. Zero. They have all been sold.

    I have a 630 airbox. An improved design but has a cover that is incompatible with the 610 plastic sidecovers. I'd love to have a good hard look at a 630 and see if the plastics would fit the 610. The 630 is a great looking bike but has the downsides of shim and bucket valve adjustment and FI. I do ALL my own servicing. I've been bitten too many times by the backwards hat wearing tunnell plugs in ear brigade that must breed in the dark recesses of dirt bike workshops... :-)

    Any one care to take some detailed shots of their 630 for me?? :-) :-)

    Fit the UBER HDD michelin tubes. When I fit some new MOTOZ tyres....

    I set a dirt bike up for (a pumpkin 625) for my 68 year old Dad a few years ago with a Rekluse and left hand rear brake. He has fused ankles (arthritis) and finds using the rear brake and gears difficult when the going gets tough, like hill climbs etc. I didn't think much about it until I rode the thing. WOW !! It's amazing. So I MIGHT go down that route. Maybe. Bike doesn't need it. But I AINT GUNNA sell this one!!!. Also, anyone used the newish Trail Tech GPS instrument? The "Voyager" Any good? My stock one gets all erratic over about 80klm's an hour.

    Comments? TLDR?? :-)
    Colo moto, Grandia, Fast1 and 2 others like this.
  2. WickedWill Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    QLD,AU
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    some little red ones
    Nice one.
    I am starting to agree on carb over FI .
    What pics do you need of 630?
    Mines at the shop but have a few pics of the build i'm doing
    Here's what i did to the airbox to stop the insert issue,water drain, boot falling off,breather falling out.

    http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/630-airbox-improvements.31335/
  3. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    Oh..... I'm liking your dome nut mod.... Thanks for the offer on the pics but I think the only way to proceed will be to suck it in and just order the plastics next time I get something from halls or R and D. I don't like using Halls and Stef at R and D husky REALLY looks after me but sometimes his buy price is over Halls full retail. For example the replacement piston was 300 from halls and 500 from Husky Australia. Tht was R and D BUY price from paul Feeney's... Go figure huh??
  4. Virginian Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Spotsylvania, VA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '09 SM610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 Moto Guzzi Griso SE Tenni
    I can't help you on the 630 pics but wow, what a difference you have made to that bike. I wish i had half the wrenching ability you have. Nice bike!

    Eric
  5. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    Thanks Eric... The only way to learn is to get stuck in and do it! Get some GOOD hand tools first. You will make MANY mistakes, we all do. Someone I respect taught me years ago that skill comes from experience and experience comes from making mistakes... :-)

    Wanna become a good bike wrench? Buy a Ducati. Or if you REALLY want to learn, buy an old British bike... I own both. Working on the Husky is almost fun in comparison! :-)
    Virginian likes this.
  6. Virginian Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Spotsylvania, VA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '09 SM610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 Moto Guzzi Griso SE Tenni
    I'm working on it. For now all I own is a Moto Guzzi Griso and my SM610. I can work on the minor things but tearing down a motor is another stpry. I'll continue to try as I go because finding a competent mechanic is almost impossible these days.

    I look forward towards reading some ride reports from your side of the fence.

    Eric
  7. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Possibly add the bike to your profile? Because I really cannot tell what year your new bike is? (adding that picture of the tricked out bike without the Safari tank as an avatar would look great!)
    http://www.cafehusky.com/account/personal-details

    Fantastic job, and kudos to you dad for still riding! :cheers:
  8. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    Thanks! Yeah... Dad turns 70 this year. So to celebrate we are going for a BIG ride to a tiny little place called Innaminka, WAY out in the middle of nowhere. Right on the edge of the desert. He owns 4 bikes now. Reckons he is gettin a bit old so has cut down. Bought me My first bike when I was 4 years old.... :-) :-)

    I'll add that bike to my avatar. Good point.
  9. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    Nice work on the bike. Where did you get your stickers?

    I put the Rekluse/LHRB on my 610 and I'm really happy with it.
  10. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    Stuff ya!!! :-) :-) NOW you've gone and done it..... That was an expensive post you just made... :-) :-)
  11. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    :eek:
  12. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
  13. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
  14. Grandia Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '07 TE610
    Nice post :)

    What kind of adjustments did you have to make to the Safari-tank?
  15. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    None!

    If you tell them it's for the 06/07 carburettor bike they supply a alloy blanking plate with tap that goes where the electronic failure (ooops :-) ) fuel pump would go on the FI bike. It's a great fit and good quality.
    Grandia likes this.
  16. ghte Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bright, Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2 x 310's, 2016 Beta 480, SWM RS650
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 Multi ,Griso1100, Monster695
    Love your work.
    Your old man must be a champion, wish mine got me a bike at 4
  17. organ donor Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Berlin
    Never seen that extent of coverage for Husky. But none for the 630. Do the 610 sticker sets fit the 630? ... Or can they be sut to size? Which ones did you use?
  18. Grandia Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '07 TE610
    that's good info man, thanks
  19. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    Shhhh!!! Don't tell him!! :-) :-)
  20. fatboycrash Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1997 Ducati 900ss
    I used the ones for the 610... I'd shoot them an email and ask. They were brilliant to deal with..