1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

Beware Of The Oil Screen Plugs On The TE511/449

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by asweeba, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. asweeba Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    CT
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE511
    Other Motorcycles:
    2001 Kawsaki KDX220
    Hey guys, I was doing my third oil change on my 2012 511. Went pretty smooth until I got to the two oil screen plugs that are next to the oil drain. Those things are just a bad design. They're too short and do not allow enough area for your socket to grab. Another problem is that the center of the hex on the cap is recessed, so it is also structurally weak due to the low amount of material. The icing on the cake for me, and probably most of you, was that the teeth of my socket (12 point) that I was using were also recessed or "sunk" inward into the socket. So in the end, I was probably only getting a grip on 1/16" of the cap lol!

    It rounded out pretty badly, so I resorted to using a vice grip. I clamped that thing on there pretty well, then got a pipe wrench on the vice grip so I had plenty of leverage. I must've torqued the crap out of the cap the last time I put it on, because I put a lot of force on it and it wouldn't budge. So I decided to really put my back into it and guess what happened? This:

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    As you can see, the cap is pretty weak.

    SO BE CAREFUL!!!

    I'm still debating what I should do next. I can't fit a cutting wheel in this area, so I can't do the flathead trick.

    I guess my only option is to get an extractor!

    Any other ideas? lol
  2. jerbear610 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sacramento,CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    14' WR300, 11' TE511, 06'TE610 sold
    Other Motorcycles:
    11' Husaberg FE570, 15' Beta 300RR
    Yeah, I rounded one off too. Ya live and learn. The great folks at MotoXotica got me a new one and now I'm extra careful with it. It's been my experience
    that the screens are never dirty so I will check every other oil change.
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  3. asweeba Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    CT
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE511
    Other Motorcycles:
    2001 Kawsaki KDX220
    Motoxotica? I'll have to look into that, thanks
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  4. Super5onic88 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Perth, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMR 449
    Other Motorcycles:
    RGV 250
    The best way I found was to fit you socket onto then with an extension and give one good solid hit with a hammer. This can free up the tight threads. Then when undoing with a ratchet put as much weight as you can on the socket whilst turning with the ratchet.
    Once you get them out throw them in the bin and replace them with billet Husky hard parts or the sweet 7602 ones.
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  5. Radar Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Southern Nevada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE449
    Try different brands of 6 point sockets. Find one that fits tight then grind off the rounded edges to insure complete engagement. I make custom tools to fit the job all the time.
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  6. tonskiguy Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greenville, WI
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    1986 Yam XT350
    6 point socket like you should have started with. Grind the end of the socket flat so you get maximum contact. Use a breaker bar so you can hit it with a hammer while you turn it. Otherwise, maybe a chisel.
  7. oregonsage 4st Clerk

    Location:
    Dry Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FX450
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha DT400 x 2, BMW G310R
    7602 makes a nice matching set which work every time...check the sponsor list
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  8. Caiman Senior Vice Procrastinator

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SWM SM500R
    What he said, much better thought out set of drain bolts, all 3 use the same size bolt head. You can even lock wire the drain bolt unlike the OE plugs.

    http://www.7602racing.com/husqvarna_te_tc_txc_449_511.php
  9. jeffrodub Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Etiwanda, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE 449
    Other Motorcycles:
    CR250, 250R ATC
    You could try not putting it on so tight in the first place! :)
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  10. Micfasto Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TXC 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR400, Vstrom
    Left hand drill bit. If that does not work insert the extractor.
  11. gillies Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '11 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    '09 R1200GSA
    I use a torque wrench to tighten this cap and am always amazed at how little effort is needed to tighten to spec. So little, it almost seems like the cap could come loose on its own. Never has. Never had any issue removing or with rounding.
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  12. Rearwheelin Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield , OffroadAfornia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 XCW 300
    JB weld a socket on or use some quick steel , should work then get new plugs.
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  13. asweeba Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    CT
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE511
    Other Motorcycles:
    2001 Kawsaki KDX220
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    Sorry for not getting back to you guys. I got this out about 3 months ago, which was also when I ordered the replacement cap (and a few extras). I know this sounds ridiculous, but the parts STILL HAVEN'T COME IN!!! Although Today I finally got a shipping confirmation that they are headed over here from Italy (I guess all the time before that, they were just sitting at the factory or wherever) So they should be here in about 3 weeks.

    Any how, Since I kept assuming that the parts were going to arrive quickly, I just left the bike with the oil pan beneath it untouched in my garage for all of the 3 months. I didn't realize how much time flew by but, I left my oil drain hole and the screen holes wide open without anything covering them. I honestly wasn't paying attention to how long it was going to sit until now. You guys think I should flush it out before adding the new oil? It's winter up here and there hasn't been any moisture in here ever since, so I'm not worried about moisture, just the dust particles I guess.

    Thanks.
  14. Colo moto CH Sponsor

    Location:
    La Jara, Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    7602racing.com
    3 weeks..... we could have a set of our matching 14mm head bolts in your hands in 3 days.
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  15. N4544D Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Orange County CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE449 sold, 2018 TX 300 sold
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 250 XCW, KTM 500 XCF-W
    10Nm (7.5 ft/lb)...as gillies said, feels like not enough, but mine have never come loose or leaked and come oil change time they are very easy to remove.
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  16. baybueller Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    norcal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13 te 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    buell, klr
    I may have gotten my screens mixed up. Manual shows the 2 different screens but both going in the rear hole.
    Anyone know the orientation offhand? 1 screen has an open area. currently this is in the front, open toward cap.
    Thanks. 2013 te 511
  17. TE in RC Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE 449
    Other Motorcycles:
    98-ATK 605 2011-TE250
    After 2 years and many oil changes I have the same problem on my 2011. Just got my 7602 oil plugs. Ready for the next oil change!

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  18. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    They are pretty soft & light, yes.
    As listed above, putting the socket (I'd go single hex) on the cap & giving the socket a good sharp tap should loosen up the cap enough to get it off this time.
    However, they are only stopping oil leaking past the gasket & have no oil pressure on them, you do not have to crank them in hard at all.
    Doing them up till they touch & just a nip more is all they need.
    Buy a quality single hex socket (six point), this will give more contact over the head of the cap.
    I'm changing my oil every 5 hrs, the bike has 115 hrs on it now & still have the original caps on it.
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  19. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Yep, 5600 miles, lots of oil changes, look like new. I also don't check them much as they are always clean. Cut a few oil filters apart recently and they were spotless. Mag plug has almost nothing on it. Seems to be a solid motor.
  20. James Patton Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Edwardsville, ILL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2012, WR125 2006
    Other Motorcycles:
    1250S Bandit, DRZ400S
    I am having the same experience as Motosportz. I try to snug just enough to compress the o-ring. Mine look like
    new and I change oil after every dirt ride ot 250/300 miles.