Calling all 2013 TE449 owners - Would you buy it again?

No you haven't , probably buisy on the beta forum telling everyone how great betas are ! Lol I like there two strokes, but next bike won't be until after my divorce lol

Nah, try not to talk her up much, I'm easily mis-understood as I've found out. I do have a tip though, buy it now and speed up the paperwork! (she may own it when its done though!)

That's not a very good tip lol

You are spot on and are correct. Though I believe none of these bikes should be sold in an "un-rideable" condition. We have pretty strict emissions and import laws here also but Aussie dealers scrap the emissions stuff before sale and retune the motors to run how they should. I don't think they don't believe in climate change, its just they sell a product in a state that it is designed to run like it was designed to.

Please tell me again how big a turd the Beta is. Third overall, someone need to tell Nick he is riding a lesser bike.
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I think it's a little tougher with the fuel injection bikes as some require a reflash, updated ECU that only dealers can do or a $400 tuner. And sometimes you will not be lucky enough to have a dealership that has the proper equipment and knowledge. I'm not too keen on the new WR450F - but they are not plated from factory so aren't nearly as restricted - at least on MY 2004 WR450F - I just removed a grey wire and changed the main pilot jet (though I don't think I really had to)... Fuel injection certainly has their benefits - but more difficult for the user to 'tinker' with , without sinking another 300-400 for a tuner. Where as carbs, you buy jets for less then $40 and can work on it yourself pretty easily.

It is what it is - if you want full potential from factory - TXC is way to go. I just hope they make a Baja Designs kit for it

Nick could win on a washing machine if it had wheels. His Beta is about as stock as my 511. Never the less, I sent him a text this morning telling him he is riding a lesser bike.

You are right. I just don't think it's good enough to sell a product that doesn't work properly. How many posts are on here saying "my 449/310/250 etc won't run right/flames out/runs hot etc." often due to lack of knowledge/equipment from the dealer that didn't set it up as it was meant to run.

I suppose it all depends on how bad you want that license plate.

It'd be nice if all brands, not just Husky, sold Fuel Injection with some kind of tuner for it. Since most riders will almost always re-jet carb bikes - there's no reason to think that will be the same with Fuel Injection. Especially on the bikes that are choked up to meet emissions - people are going to want to uncork for full power then realize that they need to change the fuel/air mixture among other things. It just asking for un-needed headaches imo.

European Emission Standards as well as CARB have written specific laws against this on street licensed vehicles. I think the EES wants to do away with motorcycles all together -

EES and CARB always frowning upon our fun

I think it's more clarification then justification. People seem to over-exaggerate things that they are fans of. While there is mostly truth, it's good to know the aspects that maybe not so amazing so they can be improved or knowledge for others before too late.

No bikes are perfect. After reading some posts here though apparently the 511 is a perfect bike. I love the way my TE250 handles (sorry I know this is a TE449 discussion!) but it has it's issues with power delivery / smoothness - even after Tuners, and dealership 3 hours away was clueless about ECU/reflashing/mapping..

Huh huh huh huh huh...he said "Wankerdom."

Would you buy again? Sounds like an invitation to give astute observations about bikes that you have never owned.