clutch bushing part number

Discussion in '610/630' started by blueknob, Dec 28, 2013.

  1. blueknob Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 te610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1979 harley davidson superglide
    2007 te 610, anybody know the correct part number for the clutch bushing, there's two listed, 800072943(26mm x 23mm), or 161538802 (28mm x 25mm), getting ready to order parts and I didn't really want to have to order both, Thanks.
  2. Theo Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lombardy, Italy
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SM 610 I.E.
    Other Motorcycles:
    2001 YZ250
    I have a 2008 610 and it has a 28mmx25mm bushing. Two people, on Italian forums, said that the 26x23 is for the 2004 and older models.
  3. Borgschulze Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 Yamaha WR450
    It's been back-ordered for 3+ months everywhere apparently.

    If you find one, let us know where...
  4. blueknob Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 te610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1979 harley davidson superglide

    that's not what I wanted to hear, just placed an order for some parts last night, hopefully it won't be too long.
  5. Borgschulze Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 Yamaha WR450
    Where from?

    Lang's, MotoXotica, and Halls, all told me 3+ Month Backorder.
  6. BiG DoM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    I believe the factory/warehouse was being moved and that is why there has been a delay in supply of spares. Here in South Africa spares seem to be flowing again so maybe not such a long wait. Personally I would get a machine shop to turn one for me - not rocket science.
  7. EricV Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630

    I'm in this spot also. I get that it's a no-brainer to replace the thing, but I don't want my bike down indefinitely either. Is it such a bad thing to re-use the one that's been in there? My 630 has 6500 miles on it right now.

    EDIT: If anyone out there has a new one- and is good with a micrometer/caliper- I'd be very interested in getting a very precise drawing of the thing w/ precise dimensions so that I can get some made. If these things are back ordered that long there's no telling how long that'll go on, and it's fargin' ridiculous to have the bike down that long over something stupid like this. Now needless to say if anyone has a spare they'd like to sell I'll happily pay 2x your cost (I know, no one has spares of this kind of thing and would be crazy to part with it anyway, but doesn't hurt to ask. :) )
  8. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    This may not be a very difficult part to fabricate. If some guys are in a bind, I can probably whip some up, provided the sizing isn't super weird.

    Anyone know what the actual geometry of the bushing is? 28x25 is missing a dimension (and it doesn't say what the two given dimensions are). Does anyone have their bike apart to measure ID, OD, and length?

    Alternatively, if you can press your stock one out and send it to me, I can see if it's feasible to make them...

    For what it's worth, I had my clutch out recently to do the spring washers (all of which were fine, but I did them anyway), and I reused my bushing. No play and no noises. Bike has about 7000 hard offroad miles.
  9. EricV Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Seems you were posting this while I was editing my post. :) Huge thanks Kyle- that's a great offer. Also good to know yours is still fine.

    Yes, I thought of taking the measurements of mine but then discounted the thought as mine would be semi-worn....so it seems to me we'd need a new (or near to new) one to get it as spot on as possible. I'm waiting on a tool to remove the clutch basket right (so I don't break any fingers of the basket) and then I'll be able to get a look at mine. I think the things are brass, and don't know enough to say if a.) it certainly is or b.) if there are different grades/hardnesses of whatever the material is (or if this matters much w/ this part.)

    I'm removing mine for the spring/cup washer job. I peeked behind the primary gear (can only see 2, maybe 3, washers that way) and it looks as though mine are hammered. Mine has seen a fair amount of not very gentle road rides, so that accounts for much of that. When the tool comes and I get the basket off (next week) I'll be sure to post pics in that stickied thread ("help- debris found in my engine") to aid others in assessing theirs.

    Really appreciate your willingness to investigate the possibility of fabricating these!
  10. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    You're waiting on the tool to hold the clutch basket so that you can pop the nut off? There are lots of alternative ways to do this, but just applying the rear brake with the bike in gear is a simple one. I've heard of guys just sticking a broom handle through the rear wheel too, although I don't do that because it risks bending the spokes. On some bikes, the sprocket has holes in it you could stick a dowel through, those are definitely strong enough to use. You can also use a Motion Pro gear jammer tool.

    Even though your bushing is worn, it would still give me 90% of the information I'd need to fabricate a new one. The only missing piece is how much clearance to leave on the ID of the bushing (this is the part that wears), but there are standards for that so it's pretty easy to figure out. The important bits of information are:

    Bushing OD
    Shaft OD (bushing ID)
    Bushing Length

    I'd measure all of this stuff with a micrometer, but you can pretty safety assume that everything is a nominal millimeter size. Measurement with a caliper should be sufficient. Heck, if you measure it with a ruler, that would at least get the process started.

    Where are you located? If you stick your old one in an envelope, I can measure it and spec out a replacement. If we're lucky, there is an off-the-shelf part.
  11. EricV Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    I sure am. :) You see, Murphy (of said Law) absolutely rules my life with an iron fist...always has and to great success. It's rare that I bow to better judgement (I usually press on) but on this I'll wait for the Motion Pro Gear Jammer to arrive (ordered it this morning.) I've read about all of the alternative methods and while they work most of the time I haven't found one alternative method that didn't have an accompanying story of carnage....and I just don't wanna be that guy (especially so as I'm that guy w/ limited wrenching abilities and long/far away from any real bike mechanics I'd trust.)

    I'd tend to agree with you- there probably isn't too much variance between mine at 6500 and a new one. I threw that out there as it is, after all, a bushing that wears and will introduce play- one of the things it's designed to minimize. I get what you're saying though and yes, I'd agree, the O.D. of the shaft will dictate the I.D. of the bushing. As mentioned I'll have mine out w/in the next 7 days. I stopped by the house at lunch and found my father's old caliper, so I can take some precise measurements and will sketch it out also (as there's a little "ridge" about 1/4-1/3 of the way up, I believe, and that'll also be easy enough to capture dimensions of.)

    Thanks again man- I'll be sure to post back up when I get this thing out.
  12. Borgschulze Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 Yamaha WR450
    I used the holding the brake method to remove mine.

    Also... that brash bushing is quite loose fitting... definitely was never pressed into the clutch basket.
  13. SilverBullet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Harmaston, TX
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 300EXC, V-Strom650, Super Tenere
    I have a brand new bushing on hand for when I do my cup spring washer swap out. Actually way overdue on this with almost 16K miles on my bike so not willing to give it up now and wait on replacement. I will dig it up and take some photos and measurements for you.

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  14. SilverBullet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Harmaston, TX
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 300EXC, V-Strom650, Super Tenere
    Found it quicker than I thought I would.
    Husky p/n: 161538802

    OD 28.12
    ID 24.87
    Height 29.04
    thickness 1.66
    Oil ring indent OD 27.58
    Oil ring width 1.50
    Oil ring hole 3.0 x 2

    Note per photo below I did not remove bushing from the shrink packaging. Not ready to install it yet and didnt want it to get buggered before I install it. I did measure a double thickness of the shrink wrap at .19mm Therefore all OD dimensions above would subtract this, ID measurements add it and for height subtract half of it.

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  15. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    Bad news is, there isn't an off-the-shelf replacement. However, I can definitely make these!

    Those dimensions are a good start, but I don't want to fab parts based on measurements through plastic. If you send me your part, I will be super careful with it and re-package it in such a way that it will stay pristine.

    Otherwise, if someone else sends me a used part, that's probably good enough!
  16. blueknob Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 te610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1979 harley davidson superglide
    [quote="Kyle Tarry, post: 377498, member:

    Those dimensions are a good start, but I don't want to fab parts based on measurements through plastic. If you send me your part, I will be super careful with it and re-package it in such a way that it will stay pristine.

    Otherwise, if someone else sends me a used part, that's probably good enough!

    Why don't you just measure your clutch basket and shaft to get the dimensions?
  17. Rockchucker22 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Bishop
    I've been waiting 2 months already for the bushing, I sure hope this isn't a sign of things to come!
  18. EricV Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    That thing does look pretty straightforward. Thanks SB for doing that.

    I had some good luck/timing on this. This afternoon- for shits and giggles and to see if there's an update on back-order status- I called Motoexotica (as Halls already said backorder and Motoexotica has been helpful to me in the past...good guys we all know.) After a few hold-ons they said the U.S. warehouse had received a few so I ordered mine (well, they ordered it from the warehouse, then sent from them to me. So, prob a couple weeks out.) Fingers crossed for no hay-wire in the order/shipping.

    I still think it's worth fabbing. A back-order is likely again. As long as and once I get the new one I'll be happy to mail my old one. I can also take measurements of the new one, and I think Blueknob (which, by the way, I hope resolves w/out medical attention :) ) has a good idea also. Thanks gang.
  19. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    I don't need one of these. While I'd love to help a fellow Husky owner, I'm not going to strip my bike down to get some measurements for someone else's part. :thumbsup:
  20. blueknob Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 te610
    Other Motorcycles:
    1979 harley davidson superglide
    but we really need those bushings, lol. seriously though, if I can find a decent set of calipers I'll try to get some measurements.