Hello all! I'm considering getting a TR650, but I've got a few questions for those who own one. 1. How's the throttle control? Example : I've got a Yamaha FZ6, and one of my gripes is the abruptness of the throttle. I've adapted pretty well to it, but it's still annoying. When I apply throttle, say, while exiting a corner, it kind of just "snaps" on, and the bike just lunges forward abruptly. Also, when I let off the throttle, it starts slowing immediately, a bit too much actually. It's just the nature of an FZ6, and I am pretty smooth now, but there's only so much that can be achieved. It is what it is I suppose. On the street it's a non-issue, but in the twisties it can be quite annoying. And I live on a mountain road, so there's no avoiding it. My TW200 is really smooth by comparison, but I think that's more to do with the tiny amount of "power" it has. The TW also is much smoother on decel, unless I'm higher up in the revs or in a lower gear. 2. I've read that the TR is really smooth. I'm sure it has vibrations somewhere in the RPM range. Where do those vibes occur? Up high, in the middle? Is it more of a buzz, or more like other thumpers? This is more out of curiosity, as vibrations and buzzing don't really bother me. 3. What are the valve adjustment intervals? How easy are the valves to get at and adjust anyways? On my FZ6 it's heck of a job, as in not a in-your-driveway kind of job. Luckily, those are good for 24K miles between adjustments. The TW of course, is old school design and super easy to adjust the valves on. Apples to oranges I know, but good general references none the less. 4. Anyone try to run regular fuel in their TR? Can the ECU compensate? Just curious about this one. Far from a deal breaker, seeing as they seem to get such good mileage, and the tank is far from monstrous. That's all I've got for questions. The TR650 looks amazing, and I'm about 90% it'll be my next moto, and it'll fit my needs/wants perfectly. Thanks in advance!
1. nope, smooth roll on coming out of corners 2. Some vibs but smooth for a single. Feels a lot like a 650 v-tiwn for some reason. The vibs that are there are of the pleasurable kind not irritating. IMHO 3. Dunno, long time. 4. No, I run super in everything. GREAT bikes. Perfect light weight adventure bike and great street bike too.
FWIW #3 I have read that it is 6000 miles on the valves, same as the BMW's with the similar engine. Kind of short IMO for a modern street biased engine, most are in the 15000 mile range, some like the OPs yamaha are 24000 Not a deal killer, but more frequent than most.
Cool, thank you so much for your answers! 6K miles is a bit short for the valves, but not terrible by any means. Plus it's only a single, so it's probably a fairly simple job. Yep, I think this is going to replace the FZ6 as my commuter motorcycle in a short while. I hate to part with it, but registration on three moto's is just too much, and I still love the TW too much to ever part with it. lol
Different power than an FZ6. It does have some vibration in the 3,000-4,500 range, but pretty smooth at 5K. Since it's a single cylinder vs the FZ's 4, the throttle response is not as snappy off the line but get her up into the higher RPM's and she's a pretty fun ride. Way less vibration and a lot more pep than the KLR 650 or any other like bike.
That's check intervals, many guys on ADV are going 12K or more before have to adjust anything with the similar BMW motor.
I'd second that on the valves, unless you have a tendency to ride 'really' hard, i wouldn't be too concerned before 12K. As for vibes personally the Terra still amazes me. Like Motosportz said, it really does feel like a twin, even sounds like one at times. But with all the advantages of a single. Very smooth power, will pull from about 30mph in top without feeling like your riding a jack hammer. One note, these engines run hot, the compressions up and i wouldn't make a habit of running lower octane.......... all round, one heck of a great bike!
Ah, good to know! That's even better then. As to octane, I'll definitely run premium in it. I was just wondering is all. I'm kind of surprised that Husky and BMW still make moto's that require premium though, as the jap bikes are typically high compression, high-revving engines, and yet they run just fine on regular. Heck, that's what's recommended by Yamaha for my FZ. Heck, the FZ6 is only .1 less than the TR, 12.2 vs 12.3! Oh well, still not a deal breaker for me. Now to decide whether or not to go look at one in person tomorrow. Hmmm.......
Valve adjust intervals are 12K...just like the BMW 650 single. FYI.... I work in a BMW/Husky dealership
The BMW singles are 6k mi according to my BMW dealer, and to the schedules posted at http://www.ascycles.com/bmw_motorcycle_service_and_maintenance_schedules.aspx.
If I am not mistaken, service intervals are every 6k. Valves are not done at every 6k. 12k then 24k, 36k etc.
On the Husky, or on a BMW single? Check out the Sertao schedule at http://www.ascycles.com/pdf/ServiceSchedules/G650GS_Sertao_6K.pdf. It clearly states every 10k km, 6k mi.
