Display reading "Fail"

Discussion in 'EFI/carb' started by BentAero, Sep 27, 2009.

  1. BentAero Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Asheville, NC
    During the most recent work on my 310, I did the zip-ty retention of the fuel pump, and installed the PCv w/ AutoTune.

    Upon firing it up the first time since, the dash display is reading "fail", even though the bike runs fine. (better!)

    The manual sez you have a fuel injection system malfunction if it reads "fail". Hmmm. runs fine.

    Ideas?
  2. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Interesting, I've got no idea

    :confused:
  3. ScottyR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mitchell, ON
    It needs to be hooked into the I-Beat to determine what the failure code is. Something isnt right if "fail" is coming up on the dash.
  4. husky123 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Leesburg, VA
    It's not displaying "Sel 2 fail" is it? That is normal. Like Scotty mentioned if it is saying "fail" and staying stuck on that it needs to be hooked up to the iBeat software to see what the deal is.
  5. ScottyR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mitchell, ON
    What is posted above is 100% correct.
  6. BentAero Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Asheville, NC
    Great. The display was fine before I pulled the fuel pump...

    No, it's not "Sel 2 fail". Just reads fail in all five modes. Essentially, that's all it reads. No mph, odo, anything.

    Nearest iBeat is an hour away.
  7. ScottyR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mitchell, ON
    Then you need to hook it up to the I-Beat.
  8. XLEnduroMan Heroes Ride Huskys. The others follow.

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  9. BentAero Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Asheville, NC
    A) What type of info, exactly, will the iBeat reveal? A short circuit? A bad connection? Low fuel pressure?

    B) Is there any way to 'reset' the display to normal w/o the iBeat hookup? -or will it always read 'fail' without it.

    C) How can there be a fuel system malfunction causing the 'fail' message when the bike runs perfect? Is this just a fluke?

    D) Could it have anything to do with the battery being disconnected when I made the disconnect/connection of the PCV/Autotune?
  10. ScottyR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mitchell, ON
    I have found 90% of the fail codes on the 09s have been related to poor/dirty connections. My 09 310 was spitting out an 02 sensor failure last weekend was running like crap. The funny part was that I dont even have the 02 sensor connected on my bike! My MAF sensor was all gunged up and causing the code to appear.
  11. BentAero Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Asheville, NC
    Poor/dirty connections where?

    How did you get the MAF sensor code to go away? Do you click "clear" in when the iBeat software is connected?
  12. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    The electrical connections to it or the sensor itself?

    The MAQS on the throttle body that has the barometric pressure, TPS, and air temp sensors?

    Is there a separate Mass Air Flow sensor?
  13. petem Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Andover, UK
    Happened on my 450 once when it was very new but I only saw it for a second as it cleared itself. Funnily enough it came back just last Sunday and this time stayed on. I stopped and switched the ignition off and on which cured it - so far so good since then. Both times the bike still seemed to be running perfectly, which might tie in with it being a bad connection somewhere which is showing a fault that isn't actually there. If it is that then I guess you have a connection which has failed properly rather than just being a bit intermittent now and again. I'll be interested to see what you find.
  14. ScottyR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mitchell, ON

    The connector was all gungy. It was also causing a low manifold pressure code to come as well.

    Cleaned it up, cleared the codes and the bike ran fine with no codes.
  15. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Nice! The errors went away.

    With the iBeat the historical error codes can be cleared as well is my understanding.


    Just to be clear - you are referring to the sensors on the throttle body, right?
  16. ScottyR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mitchell, ON
  17. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Thank you :thumbsup:
  18. ah_huat Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    singapore
    Well as for me i have the fail sign too, i have check it with Ibeat and i also clean up the connector here is the code.

    Low Value - 0640- input voltage from the water temperature sensor fell below its minimum possible value.
  19. seymore Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boise, ID
    I think your going to have to get the wiring diagram out and check for shorts or opens on the 2 wires connected to the water sensor. One wire connects to the ECU sensors ground and the other goes directly to the ECU. The sensor ground wire maybe be splice with other sensor grounds in the wire harness, but I'm not sure. You're just going the have to trace it out.

    There is a very slim possibility that the problem could be with the ECU's input, but that would be the last place to check.



  20. lairpost Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Vista, CA
    could be a bad connection, but it also could be (my bet) the sensor has gone bad.