I've tried to explain the cut and stuff technique and now Chilly has made a video of this practice. So here y'all go. http://www.enduro360.com/2015/01/16/products-tested/more-life-from-your-michelin-mousse/
I am trying to decide on proper mousse sizing for my Metzeler 90/90/21 and 120/90/18 tires. With the discussion of shrinking in use, etc... want to be sure I buy the appropriate size on the first go around. Any help on sizes is appreciated,
Michelin M15 mousse is for 90/90-21 (80/100-21) M14 mousse for 140/80-18 (120/100-18,130/80-18,110/100-18) M18 mousse for 120/90-18 (100/100-18)
Thanks. Just ordered a set (15/18). Will be nice to not sweat a flat this year and save carrying tube and irons
I run a M18 in the rear it says it is for a 100/100/18 but I use it in a 110/100/18 no problem BUT REMEMBER to use ENFORCE TIRE SOAP TC-70 Zip Ty Racing sells it . I get a full year of racing out of a well lubed mousse DO NOT USE THE LUBE THAT COMES WITH THE MOUSSE use tire soap
I have a bucket of the Murphy's Tire Mounting Paste and was thinking of using it liberally after watching Chilly's video where he says to use a paste/soap... I know there is a preferred product but I am trying to be cheap. http://www.jtmproductsinc.net/murphys_europaste.html
So Chilly "qualifies" how easy he made that look by stating he was using a well-worn tire. Just how much harder is it to install a mousse in a new tire?
Here is a video I did over a year ago I believe I was using a new tire and a new mousse I have gotten better since then I also use a pair of vice grips most of the time instead of those orange clamps. But you still get the idea View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QK_qIp5Ypc
Questions: So you're using vice grips to hold the bead down in the rim right? Don't they screw up your rim? You pushing air into the hole where the valve stem would have gone? Wouldn't you want to cover that up so debris doesn't get in and damge the mousse?
Vice grips on the rim make scratches But you should see all the scratches I have from riding it. My original orange clamps have a rubber coating on the end but they do not stay on like the vice clamps. As for the air hole there is so much pressure on the mousse to rim, It really would be hard for something to get in
Why do you feel soap is better than the supplied lube? Surely the mousse company has a bit of knowledge with the product...
Alan Randt suggests mounting a new mousse in a used tire and riding on it for a day and then mount it in a new tire. Not everyone has time to do this, so it's tougher to mount new tire and mouse together. A friend just learned this the hard way.... At the minimum you need the tire mounting stand shown in the vids. My buddy tried to do it on a 5 gallon plastic bucket and with 2 guys holding the tire.... he still couldn't do it. I loaned him my stand today. Enduro Engineering vid.... View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf22043Dbxk
Because just about everyone I know that uses the small tube of solvent based lube burns up there mousse. Everyone I know that uses a lot of tire soap gets a lot of use out of there mousse. I have about 15 tubes of the small lube that comes with the mousse you want it Plus the tire soap is water based and you can wash it off the lube supplied makes a mess that is hard to clean up
Just a question as a non-mousse user. I always assumed the lube would be like a silicone or similar. Thanks for the reply.
Yes the factory supplied lube is a silicone based lube. You should try a mousse it is so great to go riding and if installed correct you never have to worry about a flat. Plus they really do work well. Now I just need to find something to use all those silicone based lube tubes on. Hate to throw them away
Stuffed my Mousses ... Toughest part was getting the initial bead and big lump on the rim. Last was final bead around the bead lock. Very important that the opposite bead is in the valley well. A stand that you can secure well is handy. Mine has a removable bead breaker that was off when I mounted the tire but I used it after install to make sure the bead was set well all around. I used some small squares of 3m film to cover inside and out of the air stem hole and used my rim strip as figured that plastic w/soap is a good interface. Back from a quick ride and they ride well. Feel like the 12-13lb they are supposed to be. You do need to massage them into place a bit. Having a bead breaker comes in handy for this. Tire Stand w/bead breaker, 3 MotoRace 16" curved irons, 2 straight 8" Motion Pro to use for bead wedges, Motion Pro bead Holder.
I can think of a few uses for an over supply of lube , not sure I'd THAT sort on your lady friend though..
I've been thinking about running them. I keep getting hassled by Helmut to do so. I do all my own tyres at home, but not well set up for it. That and I reckon I've had maybe 5 flats since I got back into riding again in 2007.... That's a lot of skinned knuckles, thrown tyre levers and swearing I've missed out on changing mousses. If I raced it would be a no brainer. Q2- How do you know what tyre pressure feeling you'll end up with? As in, how to avoid it riding like it has 18 or 20 psi in the tyres?
