First Auto

I have just got my first auto , which I believe is a 79 model, it starts and runs a treat, is there a workshop manual anywhere I can download, the transmission only really as I can find one for the conventional bikes. I usually run my bikes on R, just love that smell,at 25 to one, but most of my bikes are classic should I use a modern oil? I intend to use the bike in time trials ,3 stage trials and enduro type events.

Here's one, hope it helps

Thanks that's brilliant, loads of funny looking bits in there!!

I run mine @ 40;1 with mineral oil or 50;1 full synthetic. Make sure you change the tranny fluid religiously every ride... the tranny's get very hot!
Enjoy!

Went for my first ride today, only about 10 miles or so, to go further I have to use public roads . I changed oil before I used it not knowing its history, it was red i.e. auto transmission fluid which is what I replaced it with. Is this ok or should I hunt down some of the univis stuff

You can use OHLIN shock oil, B&M full synthetic tranny fluid(if they have it over there) or as a last resort UNIVAS j26... they have made alot of improvements on fluids since the auto's came out.

Regular tranny fluid will quickly overheat the tranny.

Thanks I am going to try and hunt up some fully synthetic t.f.

I can get Mobil 1 ATF, does this sound alright


http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.aspx This is the website link

Stormer254 - Good question, but I don't have the answer. It's probably ok but I would go on both web sites and look at the specs and applications. Fluids have so many different additionals makeups(friction modifiers,etc.) without looking it's hard to say.
Perhaps we may have a chemical engineer on this board who can say - another option would be to call some of the companies(I have done this a few times).
When in doubt, stick with the known fluids. You should be able to find OHLINS in your area via a bike shop who could order it. It's not cheap, but if you ruin the tranny the fluid becomes VERY cheap!! OHLINS fluid has a VERY high boiling point in comparison to other fluids, this becomes very important as the auto tranny's generate so much heat.

Another oil I have found is Castrol Transynd, but I just can not quite understand the tech specs, like trail ridernut said is there a chemical oil engineeer that can help? it would be great, in the meantime I will try and locate some Ohlins

I forgot to ask is there a particular grade of shock oil?

If I remember correctly it's a 5wt rear shock.

Glad you've finally found one Steve. Hope to see you out on it next season

I have got a can of the proper stuff and I quote,the replacement for Esso Univis J 26 is Mobil Univis HVI 26 but being an industrial oil I'm afraid it's only available in 20 litres pails. I can not find any one who will definitely tell me of an equivalent or better oil available in smaller amounts.

Statoil Hydraulic Oil 131 (data sheet) is (what I believe) approved by the Swedish army to be used in their autos.

One of my friend who is riding an auto told me that after several
test ( dexron, etc...)the best oil is univis( don't remember if it is J 26 or hvi 26).
With this oil, changing gears are smoother than with others oils.
Price is something 150 € for 20 liters. But with frequent oil changing with automatics, it is not a problem. You must change your oil frequently.