Garmins and TR650s don't mix

Discussion in 'TR650' started by MadDogTR, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. MadDogTR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes, many.
    As some of you already know, many Garmin GPS's need a 'special' cord for power so the unit does not think it is connected to your computer. Of course the unit that I have for the TR is one of these models. That is fine and dandy if you have a cigarette lighter installed, or the special hardwire cable that connects to 12V. But we have the infamous 5V connector at our disposal. Wouldn't it be great if we could run our Garmin on that? Yeah, it would be. If we could. I haven't figured it out yet. Anyone else?

    P.S. A standard usb cable has 4 wires. And 5 pins. It is that 5th pin that doesn't have a wire that needs to be grounded for a Garmin to recognize it as a power/charge cable.
  2. mnb Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Jose, California
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE310 . . . . 2003 TE610e
    The cigarette lighter version can be modified to be a hard wire option.

    Or you can get/modify a cigarette lighter adaptor to plug it in to, but that style connector is weak. It tends to wiggle loose and shorts out on the frame easily.
  3. MadDogTR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes, many.
    mnb said: The cigarette lighter version can be modified to be a hard wire option.
    Or you can get/modify a cigarette lighter adaptor to plug it in to, but that style connector is weak. It tends to wiggle loose and shorts out on the frame easily.

    I just ordered a cheap cigarette lighter adapter. Do I just cut the wires, find a red and a black, and wire them to the 5V connector? I would have to assume this means that the 5 pin is already grounded properly???
  4. Ogre_fl Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cook Bayou, FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Tiger 1050
    I simply buy a Garmin hard wire for every bike and hook it up to the battery or other 12V source.
    IMO they are not that much $$ and they have been reliable.
    I have screwed around with cig lighters in the past and they failed a lot.

    http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-usb-power-cable.html

    FWIW I have found in my truck that if use a standard USB cable to power my Garmin Nuvi 550 after a few minutes it no longer treats it as a "computer" connection and starts working as a regular power cable.
  5. MadDogTR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes, many.
    The Garmin hard wire would be the easy way to go... if we didn't already have a 5V connector. And I have better uses for the battery posts than a garmin cable.

    I will try the 'wait a few minutes' trick and see if that works.
  6. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE
    What model Garmin are you using? I'm guessing its one of the cheap generic models and not a motorcycle specific unit? I have a Garmin 660, and it comes with bike and car docks. It knows whether it's in the car or on the bike just by the dock it's plugged into.
  7. krussell Strada Adventurer

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada (for sale)
    Other Motorcycles:
    K1600 / Super Tenere
  8. MadDogTR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes, many.
    Nev, it is an 'inexpensive' 755 model. I have a more expensive bike specific Garmin, but it is too big for this bike in my opinion. This one doesn't really care if it is docked to a bike or a car. It just needs to know it isn't docked to a computer.

    Krussle: the switched 12V kind of defeats the purpose of have a switched 5V that is perfect for a GPS. And the switched 12V could be used for things that must run on 12V instead of 5V. And I would have to purchase another cable that is meant to be hardwired into 12V.
  9. kswaid Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250R, Street Triple
    Just modify your USB cable to short the +data and -data pins so that it acts as a "smart" cable. I did this with some conductive ink and it worked fine for my phone, which would only charge at .5A without a "smart" cable.