1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

How would you get THIS off?

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by 99WR250, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. 99WR250 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1999 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha TW200
    I've run into a stuck fork cap: I made the mistake of heating it, but that just made it worse. ANY HELP? Or do I need a new left fork?

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    Dremel it out?
  2. old3 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NJ
    Gasp! Heat on the tube only might have been the ticket, so it would expand a bit. Have you grabbed it with a channel lock plier?
  3. bdl507 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New Hampshire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    99 wr360
    Other Motorcycles:
    rd350 dr650 tt500 pe250 hondas lots
    At that point i would use a monkey wrench.
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  4. huskybear Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    B.C. Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 wr144 with lectron carb, stuff!
    I would try heating the fork tube,loosening the upper pinch bolts and try a pipe wrench on the edge of the fork cap above the fork tube. Good luck:cheers:
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  5. sabortooth No Class

    Location:
    Izard Co. Arkansas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11uptite167
    A Press, Torch, Aerokroil, and a Pipe wrench.
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  6. Boogie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Red head
    Dremel.

    Carefully cut as much as you can off. Then pry out the internal thread with a sharp chisel. File a groove in the internal bit with a triangular file to weaken it if needed.

    Wrenches may distort the cap out of shape and make it harder to remove. Maybe.
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  7. 99WR250 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1999 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha TW200
    Night TWO trying to fix this mistake. Purchased a new cap on eBay for $42 !! Ouch! Painfully mistake, but know I'm thinking I should have just bought a second fork on eBay for $100 and had some extra parts to play with. Tonight we were able to get the air valve and cap off (wanted to save this as the new cap does not come with these).

    Lossened the tripple tree, Tried inserting a LARGE screw tap, but we did not have the right square driver head the rear of the screw tap needed. Tried heat and a medium sized adjustable wrench on the rear of the tap, even tried tapping wrench with a hammer. NO luck. Next is to try an air impact driver with square driver socket and heat.

    Plan B: weld the right size aluminum bolt onto existing cap and use large tort wrench again.

    Place C....Dremel carnage

    Plan D...new fork :(


    Thoughts?
  8. old3 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NJ
    Tap a chisel along the edge in the counter clockwise direction. Or, get a little slot there and use the hammer & punch.
  9. Idacurt Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    hailey,ID
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    07 WB177
    Other Motorcycles:
    Scorpa 175
    I would try this after putting heat to it.
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  10. Indorider Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bojonegoro, East Java Indonesia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 TE 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha TZM, Suzuki RGR (2 smokers)
    I was just about to say the same thing!
  11. Boogie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Red head
    Heat works to remove stuck bolts in a few ways:
    - breaks loctite bond
    - helps break fused metals (by corrosion)
    - expands the materials

    So, heat should be applied to the outer material.

    I think that your stuck fork cap is out of shape and applying heat won't loosen it enough to screw it out.

    Have fun with you Dremel.

    Let us know how you go...
  12. Boogie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Red head
    Also, consider the materials involved. Aluminium will expand at a greater rate than steel.

    Using heat to remove a steel bolt from an aluminium housing can be successful, because the aluminium will expand "more" and create clearance.

    Rapid cooling would be better for aluminium bolt in steel housing... got any liquid nitrogen handy!?
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  13. Ruffus Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Maybe, & this is just a guess. Make a mold by putting a slightly smaller tube over your fork cap, line the inside with saran wrap, fill with water & put it in your freezer over night. Soak the area with PB Blaster, or similar product, & let sit overnight.

    Next day gradually heat up the fork tube. Place premade ice tube over fork tube cap & use a good quality, proper sized pipe wrench. If it doesn't work, take it to a pro & bite the bullet. Good chance it'll be cheaper in the long run.
  14. KXcam22 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kamloops, BC, Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SM630, 2017 300XC
    Other Motorcycles:
    08FZR6;07CRF450;98CBR900RR;02KTM200
    All the above could work. I would remove the air fitting and see if you can get a large easy out (bolt extractor) into the hole. If the alum is thick enough you may get enough grip to turn it. May have to drill the hole a bit to get rid of the threads to provide more grip. Before that I would remove the fork and turn it upside down overnight. That will let some of the fork fluid penetrate the threads from the inside. I sure hope you are undoing the top triple clamp bolt first. That is usually the main cause of the rounded off fork cap. Hope this helps. To me you still have enough meat left on the cap to grab with something like vise grips. Cam.

    Ruffus idea wont work using ice, but you could do similar with JB weld. Add fiberglass strands to the JB is give it super strength.
  15. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Loosen top clamp, tighten bottom clamp and get the biggest one of these you can and grab the outside round part not the nut. Have your biggest meathead friend come over and bet him a case of beer he cant get it off. Try not to destroy the steel part.

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  16. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    The problem with heat in this case is that the aluminum cap will expand twice as much as the steel tube, making it tighter. I would still heat it several times, letting it cool down in between, before trying to turn it. I had a drain plug one time that would no way come out without rounding the corners. After several applications of heat then cooling, it turned out with my fingers.

    X 2 for the pipe wrench-:thumbsup:
  17. Boogie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Red head
    Dissolve it in chlorine!?
  18. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    I have a 6' alloy monster you can use but I don't think it will leave much left. There would only be 2 teeth gripping.:lol:
  19. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Xcuvator is correct. Be carefull with heat cause you can also melt the aluminum.
    I just did several vintage bikes. Except before rounding the nut off. I did this:

    Remove air screw. Use a socket the same diameter as chrome fork tube. Put it over damaged cap.
    use a hammer on socket, to send a shock wave down threads. Then use, wrench, in your case try pipe wrench. Did this on rest of my vintage stuff and never rounded one cap. Just don't get carried away and hit the cap so hard you drive the cap down in fork damaging threads inside mating fork tube. Your just giving it a good wrap to send shock wave to seperate the cap and tube from electrolysis.

    I do that and cap comes right off. I had one more stubborn, like yours. I think you can get a lead hammer at Fastenal. I hit the chrome tube right below cap. I used aluminum behind fork tube so no damage to chrome or tube. I dis another top shock wave then did a side one on tube over threads. It backed off normal.
    I used the lead hammer and gave a shock wave on the reservoirs on the piggy back shocks.right over the threads on rervoir. They broke loose and came right off with a strap wrench, with no damge.

    Plus you'll have a lead hammer you can use without rounding stuff over in future.

    If pipe wrench slips. I would cut a flat spot out of cap on opposite sides with a hack saw. Like a two sided nut. So wrench has a good bite.
    Using a hacksaw , you can be careful cutting cap as you get close to fork tube.if you do nick it you can file the top later.

    You might want to go around the cap between cap and fork tub to cut a small slit between cap and tube. Soak in peneterating oil overnight then proceed.

    I have done the shock thing on old plumbing pipes, oil well casings that are rusty, corroded and kinda bonded together, before even using a wrench. They break loose all the time.

    Good luck and you are at your own risk.
  20. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Also pull that tube up higher out of the triple clamp. Then re clamp. That clamp might be crimping in on tube and threads. Maybe why it wont crack loose.