1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

husky 430cr

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Barry Ranson, Nov 7, 2014.

  1. Barry Ranson Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 tx510
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 yzf450
    Hi all, ok here goes ive just bought what I beleive to be a 81/82 430cr.The problem I have is with the engine number its 0945 6800 ? Ive checked with all the husqvarna web sites and the serial number prefix doesnt appear? The frame number is so lightly stamped I cant see it. I have no reason to doubt the bike what so ever its reasonably tidy. The area where the engine number is stamped hasnt been tampered with as you can still see the machine marks in the flat area where stamped the numbers are clear, if anyone can shed some light on my problem please reply thanks all BarryRanson
  2. oldbikedude Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Honey Brook Pa.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1988 wr 430 with cr suspension
    Other Motorcycles:
    66flh,67 CA77,76 CR125M,73H1,74ty250
  3. Barry Ranson Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 tx510
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 yzf450
    I know my old 82 430cr started 2086, im stumped
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  4. dartyppyt Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    I think it is a newer case in later years that someone used.

    Yep newer case from like 86 on!

    I have a couple of frames that were stamped crooked and hardly see the numbers.
  5. Barry Ranson Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 tx510
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 yzf450
    You could be right ill have to do somemore investigating thanks
  6. Bigbill Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    Go to www.husqvarna-parts.com

    The numbers 0942, etc says it's an 83 500?

    The 430 air cooled has nine (9) cooling fins on the cylinder. The 500 a.c. cylinder is way taller.

    Darn everyone has the luck.
  7. jimspac Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    The 500 has 10 fins on the cylinder and is taller but has the same bore size as the 430 but there is nothing to keep someone from using 500 cases to build a 430 upon. The number of fins on the cylinder will be the key indication now
  8. Bigbill Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I been wanting a 500cr bike it maybe a Honda. I had a husky 85 500cr but the honed cylinder to the new piston was .001" out of spec. I sold the basket case. Big mistake.

    I have a story about engine case numbers I just purchased a 2087 engine.
    There is a 2087 WR MP it's a military police. Then there is another 2087 that's a 430 WR. I got a 430.
    The nine cooling fins was the giveaway. I purchased a advertised 250 cylinder that had nine cooling fins. It's a 420 cylinder.

    Just some thoughts when looking at parts.
  9. visiteur1948 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    france Europe
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    husqvarna only
    moteur fini le 6 mai 2011.JPG
    my motor 430.
    number=
    2086/...
    or
    2087/...
    for
    CR/WR/XC
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  10. Bengt Husky Husqvarna
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    Location:
    UK
    This one you mean ?

    When I saw your new one I thought it had a XC frame as it had the back loop. Good to see you got one, hopefully not too dear either.



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  11. Bigbill Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    That's the project bike I'm building. That's the cr frame.
  12. Barry Ranson Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 tx510
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 yzf450
    Yes thats the one steve:( the one ive just bought is not a wr or xc the rear frame loop is cleverly made to insert into the ends of the frame & pick up on the existing bolt hole! It just unbolts straight off. Everything seems correct with the bike original wheels 17" rear, exhaust is original. I know the left hand engine casings are vunerable to damage & ive checked all the husky web sites but I cant find a serial prefix 0945 im baffled!
  13. Barry Ranson Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 tx510
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 yzf450
    Thanks big bill, yes its definitely a 430 9 fins the serial number 0945 doesn't tally up with anything though I understand someone could of built the engine up out of bits but I just cant seem to find what the cases were from? Thanks for your help anyway
  14. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    The serial number 0945 is probably a replacement set of cases from Husky. The 430 & 500 were notorious for cracking center cases & if they were
    warranted from a dealer that's how the weird numbers got there.
    Husky John
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  15. Bigbill Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    The 0945 number is so close. You have a 430. It's a replacement case.

    Like I said before I seen the 2087 number mean 250 wr mp and ifa 2087 430cc wr. Go figuring there a mix up with the frame numbers along the way I heard it years ago.
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  16. dartyppyt Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Hell file them off and stamp your own on there!
    Remember a guy kept saying he needed xyz numbers on a set of cases. Guy said, I have a set and you tell me what numbers you want on them. He went back and filed numbers off and re stamped them.
  17. Bigbill Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    Does the year of the frame numbers need to match the case numbers exactly? Does that make the bike worth more?
  18. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    the only thing that gives your engines id away without measuring is the 9 fins.
    the engines are not numbered to the frames. the frames state what year and model they are. long as you have an 85 motor in an 85 frame, it is "correct". i would not be surprised if husky didnt always match this, or as ruwfo says it is likely a repair. really unless you are sure of the bikes history, the engine numbers really dont mean much as any 250 and up transmission could be swapped to any cases, or vice versa. i dont even think theres anything from stopping you from swapping ac or lc cases other than the swinger bush size between dual and single shock. only difference with the 250 and bigger brethren is the extra web in the crank.
    an engine could say 84 500 wr but have a 430 crank and jug with 250, 400, 430, or 500 cr, wr, xc running gear easily.
  19. Bigbill Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    The 250 crank in the newer 80's case has smaller crank balancers you can't put the smaller 250 crank in the larger 430/500 case because the larger volume crankshaft area won't charge the cylinder fully. But we can use the 250 case to make a 430/500 if we remove one of the double walls. Then it becomes a big bore case.

    Now the (9) nine cooling fins. The 390/ 420/ 430 all have (9) nine cooling fins. The early 430 uses the same double block reed cage as the 390/ 420.
  20. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    All air cooled 430s use the same reed as a 390 because its essentially the same cylinder with a bigger bore and a slightly taller deck height to match the longer stroke.