I screwed up, big time - Terra Cylinder/bore Kit

Discussion in 'TR650' started by DustyTheDingo, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650
    Hey guys, so i've been very happy with my terra for the few months i've had it (first bike) but today on the highway my rear suddenly locked up. Im lucky i didn't crash cos i was going 110kph, but essentially i took it to mechanic mate and he said the cylinder's funked, we did a compression test and it was at roughly 100psi, there was fuck all oil because he thinks a ring failed, the engine knocks and he said it's probably gonna need new rings, piston and a rebore. I had another friend tell me that you could get away with putting a new cylinder kit in but i have no idea where to find one. Any help with this stupid dump ass of a mistake i made?
  2. WayneC Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sydney
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    F650GS Dakar
    Why to you say you screwed up ?, what is the mistake you made ?

    The cylinder is a Nikasil coating so it would probably only need honing and recoating
  3. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I'm not sure of the quality of the nikasil. The husky/cagiva we had one tough nikasil cylinder from the factory. The bore survived and we just installed a new Kawie piston. When I was logging the husqvarna saws with many years and hours of use if the piston blew the cylinders were ok. Just a new piston.

    My point is if these new Husqvarna bikes have the same nikasil quality you may get lucky. I have gear driven hones used for boring. The stones come in all grits. One set is for nikasil.
  4. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    Ebay USA, couple jugs with pistons.

    Compression will test low, auto compression relief system.

    Knocking when running? Why did rear wheel lock?

    Do you have more specifics on how and what happened and what troubleshooting was performed.

    Do you have any fuelers on it? Any engine mods?
  5. Muddler Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TDM900, DRZ400
    Same happened to me, but instead of locking up, I lost compression. A bit of piston was left on the wall, but it was able to be cleaned up. Only a piston kit was required. I've done 3000km since then and so far so good.
    The bike shop that did my repairs looked at the eBay offerings at my request, but were of the opinion that the cylinder wear looked more then expected for the stated mileage.
  6. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650

    The engine ran out of oil, i think it was caused by my piston rings because the bike blew white smoke under hard throttle but i thought nothing of it because it wasn't blue. Had to put 2.5 L of oil in it when we tested it.

    Yes it does knock while running, mainly as the RPM drops after revving and the rear locked because the engine started to cease.

    Trouble shooting:

    Tested compression - 100psi
    Test Plugs - No Issues
    Checked oil - no oil, filled with 2.5 L of 10W50
    Started engine with new oil, ran it for a bit. Power was restored but slightly less and had loud knocking as RPM dropped.

    No Engine mods, fully stock and no ECU issues as of yet
  7. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650

    I've been trying to find a piston kit but havent seen one anywhere. Im in Australia.

    My bike has done 25000 K's
  8. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650
    I didn't check for oil, the bike ran out of it on the highway and caused the engine to ceased.

    I should've noticed something wrong when it smoked under hard throttle but it thought nothing of it because it was white smoke and not the tell tale blue.
  9. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    If you ran it out of oil, you may have more severe problems, like crank bearings etc.

    Are you going to do a full teardown?

    If not, I would buy the used stuff on ebay.
  10. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650
    I don't know yet, I'm taking it to a mechanic to have it checked over and then see where i go from there thanks for all the help though. I don't know why you guys call them jugs and not cylinders, thats why i couldnt find any
  11. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE
    Have you investigated what the root cause of the oil loss is ? Has the engine been ingesting dust through the airbox ?
  12. PaulC F class

    Location:
    Bayside Brisbane, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2 2018 YZ 450F, 2019 CRF1000AT
    Hey Bloke, I'm nearby, if you want any help or talk just pm me
  13. Hansi Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    State of Jefferson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    09 Versys

    Sorry about your troubles. Do you have the stock air filter/airbox set up?
  14. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650
    Yes i do, sorry for the late reply. I've been up in Rockhampton for my Paramedic tests
  15. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650
    Thanks man, i may need some help getting her up to full throttle but i know thats a big drive for you
  16. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650
    Not that i can tell, i think it was a piston ring.
  17. sussurf Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Port Macquarie area, NSW
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Sprint 1050, Daytona 955i
    Hmmm.....
  18. DustyTheDingo Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Gold Coast
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna TR650
    Alright, i'll give him a ring. Its pretty much a waiting game now sadly but thanks for all the help from everyone!
  19. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115

    Dust in airbox will not cause the total immediate failure that the OP has experienced. If it was a problem (and I do not think it is) you would notice noise and plenty of smoke from excessive wear etc first.
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  20. etotore Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Dumaguete Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XR 200
    2.5l of oil could be the problem,, she should need 2l on a normal oil shift change, when you change oil-filter too.
    Over filling can give compression problems, been there done that with a straight 6 cylinder car.

    It's a weird way to check oil levels on the bike, so overfilling is my worry too.

    From the manual

    The oil level must be checked with the vehicle in vertical
    position on a flat surface.
    - Start the motorcycle and heat the engine until the
    cooling fan starts; wait for another 3 minutes and
    switch off the engine.
    - Check the level as follows:
    - Undo the cap (1) with the dipstick (2) and remove
    it from the frame.
    - Clean the dipstick (2) with a cloth.
    - Place the dipstick (2) in the hole (3) without
    screwing the cap on.
    - Remove the dipstick (2) from the hole (3) and
    check that the level is between the two MIN and
    MAX marks.

    I would check the amount of metal, stuck to the draining plug.

    Technical Manual saya
    Oil and oil flter replacement.................................................................... 0,44 Imp. Gall. / 0,528 U.S. Gall. / 2.0 l
    Topping up oil between minimum and max. level................................. 0,055 Imp. Gall. / 0,066 U.S. Gall. / l 0.25

    Maybe your lucky..
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