I'm DONE with lightweight batteries!

Discussion in 'General (Main)' started by krieg, Dec 12, 2009.

  1. krieg Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Matthews, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Many in the past
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 Triumph Scrambler
    My second Turntech 2.5 failed this afternoon. Same symptoms as the first failure... push the button and NOTHING. This time, the failure seems to be internal since the terminal posts are still solidly attached to the guts.

    I've had it. I'm willing to take the additional 3 pounds to gain reliability.

    It's a novel concept, but fail is fail.
  2. PALMER84ONE Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Silverado, CA.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 TE450 THE ROCKET
    Other Motorcycles:
    12 RS520, CRF150F/230F, YZ250
    Boy, just when I was looking into this. I am going to stick with the tried and true then. Price does not justify. Thanks for the input.

    Gary
  3. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    I have not been able to keep up with the technical posts as of late, but yours is the first post regarding anything at all negative in nature I've seen.

    I would contact them before giving up, the owner seems pretty cool with the limited conversations I've had with him.
  4. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    unfortunately john had a negative post fail to make contact after a while on his first one.
  5. BentAero Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Asheville, NC
    ...which makes me think... Will a EFI TE kick-start when it has a dead battery?
  6. HuskyDude Moderator

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13/TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    10/EC300, 76/TY175
    I do appreciate all the hard work everyone is doing on these batteries.:thumbsup: Only way we all gain is from members doing R&R for us all.

    Was almost ready to jump on board for the 510...:thinking:

    Maybe I'll just wait a bit longer.
  7. krieg Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Matthews, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Many in the past
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 Triumph Scrambler
    Yeah, Joe is definitely cool and stands by his product. I may be the only one who's had this much bad luck... but 3 lbs. is not worth the grief to me. I'll go back to the original battery and quit eating Fritos at night. In two weeks, I'll be be down 4-5 lbs. for free.
  8. glangston Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Gardnerville, NV and Mammoth Lakes, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 Husqvarna TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    2012 BETA 350 RS
  9. raisrx251 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Virginia
    I had this turntech battery in my '08 TE 450 and now it is in the 2010 TXC 250 with no issues at all. I am sorry to hear of your bad luck. All I can say is mine is working great.
  10. PALMER84ONE Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Silverado, CA.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 TE450 THE ROCKET
    Other Motorcycles:
    12 RS520, CRF150F/230F, YZ250
    I like the diet idea. If I could put down the barley pop at every night I could loose that poundage easy. I am week. :busted:

    On another note: I thought the FI bikes had to have a minimum juice to fire the ECU?

    Test...Will the bike fire with the batterie not even hooked up?

    Anyone try that yet?

    Ok, Gotta watch 4 weddings with the wife.
    However,
    I am going to try it when the rain stops.
  11. Ex HVUK Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    No - at least that's my understanding but I haven't actually tried it. There is a 'battery free' conversion being investigated currently which consists of a capacitor type device designed to provide just enough voltage to power the ECU until the bike is running and the generator can take over. Not sure if/when this will be available though.

    Dave
  12. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    What about the fuel pump? How will an EFI bike start without the fuel pump priming the system?
  13. seymore Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boise, ID
    The EFI system needs about 8 volts to run the pump and the ECU, which is not enough to run the starter too. So if your battery is too low for E start, it may have enough power for kick starting.

    The guys I talked that went to factory training were shown kick starting a bike with a "dead" battery, it was really a "low" battery.

    The owners manual has a statement say never run the bike without a battery. This effectively the same battery that has an open terminal or cell. This happen to me with a TurnTech battery which had the negitive terminal break inside. TurnTech said the found and corrected the issue that was causing this failure. Luckily I was riding with a friend on a KTM that loaned me his battery.

    I have designed and tested a small 2oz device that can used in place of the battery and allow you to kick start the bike. This is very handy if you battery fails and your in the middle of nowhere.
  14. Colo moto CH Sponsor

    Location:
    La Jara, Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    7602racing.com
    I'm a little disapointed in Husky's EFI effort. All the Japanese mx 450's have FI and none need a battery.
  15. krieg Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Matthews, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Many in the past
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 Triumph Scrambler
    Yeah, the Jap EFI bikes don't need a battery. One of my favorite 'tween ride activities is sitting in my Coleman folding bag chair, watching people kick their Jap EFI 450's till they just about keel over. :lol: I watched a guy kick his CRF 450 for over 30 kicks to no avail. Finally, in disgust, he tossed the bike to the ground and sat down on the back bumper of his SUV gasping for air. It reminded me of my CRF 250 R days. It was funny in a sad sort of way.
  16. PALMER84ONE Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Silverado, CA.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 TE450 THE ROCKET
    Other Motorcycles:
    12 RS520, CRF150F/230F, YZ250
    I have seen that before. Totally decked out CRF and the little guy riding (well trying to start) it had one foot on a bike stand and kicking the thing to no avail. After he got tired another guy kicked also and still no work-y. I love the way my bike fires right away. Oh-da-pain. Sorry you had a couple of failures on yours Krieg.
  17. jedi101 Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Fairfield, pa
    has anyone tried an ebatt, i ran one for over a year and didnt have any problems, firmly mounting it is the only problem since its so small and only weighs 12oz
  18. Colo moto CH Sponsor

    Location:
    La Jara, Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    7602racing.com
    Yeah, I'm aware the crf's can be hard to start. But it can be done, without a battery. Suzuki's and Kawasaki's, to my knowledge don't have the same problems as the Honda's. But the point remains, they all don't have batteries, and they do start. I love Husky's. Heck, I've built a business around loving husky's, but take the battery out of a 2009 TE 450 and you can kick all year long and it won't start.
  19. restukey Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Bethesda, Md
    I have the TurnTech 5amp in my sm610. I was pretty quick to condemn the battery as it has never really had the power to crank. Eventually, I would get lights on, but little crank power. It turned out the auto decomp spring was done. Bike goes back together this week, and it has been sitting around in the cold while I waited for rings and cam bearings. This will be a good test.
  20. Rocknroll Husqvarna
    AA Class