1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Austria - About 2014 & Newer
    TE = 2st Enduro & TC = 2st Cross

TE/TC Inside tire fiber shreading away from rubber

Discussion in '2st' started by HS507, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. HS507 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Te 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yz450,crf150r,crf100f,crf50f
    I have a Perelli MT16 on my husky and run 8psi tubliss. Ever see this?

    Attached Files:

  2. shawbagga Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Eaton, Western Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Yeh had it on a coupla tyres of mine dunno y but didn't seem to affect em. Bn run flat at all?
  3. reveille Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    2015 300 XC W
    If you're running low pressure with tubliss, use about 6 ounces of tie sealant like quadboss or the thicker slime to keep the tire lubed and cool.
  4. NCSteve Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Appalachia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    12 WR300 13 WR165
    Other Motorcycles:
    02 XR250R 00 XR100R
    Or use more soapy water. I got almost a litre in my current VE33 100/90-19. I just kept adding more until it overflowed. :cheers:
  5. shawbagga Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Eaton, Western Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Eh?!^

    Won't it rust/corrode rim n spoke nipples?
  6. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    not to go too deep, fact is these tires are not designed to be run at such low pressures at the speeds and forces they are being run at, the sidewalls are simply over flexing and tearing the belt fibers.
    On that same note probably no worry, or maybe some slime just to coat the inside maybe that little lube may keep this to a minimum but really there is no data on that.
    Also there is ride on, which is like slime, I believe tubeliss recommends slime in the tire with their system anyway. I dont think I would use soap water.
    so conclusion add slime or ride-on to help the inner wall of the tire as well as for flat protection. Or do whatever you want- as for lube the mousse silicone stuff would be alternative. or just get mousses ...

    http://www.ride-on.com/tire-balancer.html

    http://www.slime.com/us/products/auto/sealants/tire-sealant.php
    NCSteve likes this.
  7. ggg Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE250 14
    Other Motorcycles:
    NONE
    normal when running very low pressure dont stress

    unless the tire is falling apart before the tread is ready for replacement forget about it, if it is effecting the tire you could try slime but i very much doubt that it will do anything apart from sealing a few small leaks, the tire will still heat up and flex the same.
  8. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Yup all the time on trials tyres when they start losing psi there is still tread on the tyre but the inside is toast.
    It's low pressures that over flex the sidewall slime may help prolong the issue by sealing the micro pores.
  9. NCSteve Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Appalachia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    12 WR300 13 WR165
    Other Motorcycles:
    02 XR250R 00 XR100R
    Tubliss recommends soapy water, rim is ali, spokes and nipples are stainless steel. 2 layers of duct tape and Tubliss bladder seals the rim. Lots of folks like Slime or some other sealant though.
    I guess if the bike is going to sit for long might worry about using water.
    :cheers:
  10. NCSteve Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Appalachia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    12 WR300 13 WR165
    Other Motorcycles:
    02 XR250R 00 XR100R
    Are you doing any pavement? Maybe MT16 isn't a good choice for Tubliss/low pressure :confused:
  11. reveille Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    2015 300 XC W
    Stiff wall tires with tubliss seem to work best for me. I do a good amount of pavement to connect trails with speeds 65 mph or so. If you run pavement, the tire sealant is critical to avoid overheating and damaging the tire. I've been running them for a few years with very good results using quadboss sealant added. Tubliss recommends soapy water to seal the bead during install BUT tire sealants and h2o don't play nice together so if you choose to use sealant, use sealant to lube and seal the tubliss system and tire from the start. Then add 6 to 8 ounces of additional sealant afterwards to help with cooling and flat protection. My 2 cents worth from experience.
    NCSteve and robertaccio like this.
  12. Helidave Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2017 TE 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 HD Street Glide 2012 R6
    Switch to GT 216 aa and that will not happen. MT-16 is to soft for low pressure. I killed two in two rides before changing
  13. HS507 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Te 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yz450,crf150r,crf100f,crf50f
    Thanks guys. All great advice. Im not worried, crack throttle and shred this tire. I change tires couple times a year. Agreed low pressure stresses. No slime for me, not helpful in ohio, messy, Jeff says its not a must
    robertaccio likes this.
  14. HS507 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Te 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yz450,crf150r,crf100f,crf50f
    No pavement for me. One flat track race on this tire is all, rest are all HS races
  15. NCSteve Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Appalachia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    12 WR300 13 WR165
    Other Motorcycles:
    02 XR250R 00 XR100R
    As said in the tubliss testing thread Shinko 520 is the toughest, longest lasting so far, but it's heavy. Sedona 887 was pretty good, but also heavy and a bear to mount. Next for me on the 300 is a 5.10-18 VE33. I'm running the 100/90-19 on my 165 @ 7 psi and lovin' it. :cheers:
  16. LBM. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    St. Johns Newfoundland Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE310
    Other Motorcycles:
    1975 Honda CB550F
    I had the exact same sidewall shredding on a Pirelli mt16. lasted about 875 kms. still lots of tread left (mt 16 before that lasted 1400kms with no shredding) run my 310 hard with about 10 to 11 psi and regular tube. switched to metzeler unicross, so far, so good.
    **noticed bad hop sensation from tires on pavement ride home from trail, with that mt16.
    2011 TE310 at 7760kms and 223 hours
    NCSteve likes this.