Is something like this really possible?

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    Strange but I get a log in page for Web Mail with a Cox Communications ad when I click on that link. So I guess it is possible.:excuseme:
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    No way. Imagine the money that a car/bike manufacturer could make by offering a vehicle with those sort of mileage claims. Why wouldn't they?
    And think about the video - we never saw what was inside the "vapour tank" did we? And how do we know the pulled relay was actually his fuel pump?
    For all we know those hoses could just run straight in and out and do nothing at all. Blocking the pipes and starving the engine of air could kill the motor as well.

    I call shenanigans.
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    Don't have a clue on any of this but it is not a new idea ...CARBS made in the 1920s had something like this in mind ...


    http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=968

    Making every car in America alone getting that kind of mileage would cause numerous problems both known and unknown probably. Such as the tax $$ made off gas now that is built into the economy and probably the crude supplies of the world. This would all be thrown out of the current balance. The money guys of the planet probably don't like these issues if in-deed it is possible but unrealized ...
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    I don't have sound at work, so I can't hear what the guy is saying, but I got the gist. No, it's not possible.

    There isn't a grand conspiracy at work here, it's high school level physics and chemistry. It takes energy to move your car, and that energy has to come from somewhere. You can easily calculate how much energy is stored in the combustion of gasoline and see how much is scientifically required. There's no way around this.

    Presumably this guy is also working on cold fusion and a perpetual motion electricity generator. :lol:

    That "fuel-efficient-vehicles.org" page is a classic case of a bunch of pseudoscience with no scientific rigor in testing or proof.
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    This is all I need to say about that.
    The stoichiometric point is the air to fuel ratio in a combustion engine. The stoichiometric air-fuel ratio for petrol (gasoline) is 14.7 to 1 by weight.
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    come on guys just look at what WE r doing with lectron carbs this does work we dont have it because big oil dont want us to have it just like big pharma dont want us CURING CANCER THERES NO MONEY IN IT:naughty:
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    dont we already have this with cng vehicles?
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    Lectron vs fumes is big difference, personally ive looked into hho generators and made a few to play with the amount of fumes required to run an engine is not possible just from running some tubes through a gas tank!
    It may be possible if it was a pulse jet but those are noisy and inefficient.
    It would be nice to get more for our money fuel in uk is £1.30ish a litre thats 1000 ml not per gallon so we pay outta the ass for ours an im sure if it were possible we would of done it.
    Why spend billions on hydrogen cars if we could just rig up the fuel tank the other way round?
    Hydrogens out the window as thats so expensive look at Bmw Toyota Nissan Tesla all gone electric thats the way the big boys play so we better record our 2stroke exhausts and hook that up to speakers if you want that sound track whilst your riding.

    So no i dont think it is but i could just be adding to the spin of conspiracy..
  13. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
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    60% of the cost of a liter of fuel in the UK goes to the government; that's why your gas is so expensive. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...68970/British-fuel-tax-highest-in-Europe.html

    In the US, the number is closer to 11%. http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=10&t=10

    "Big oil" doesn't have some conspiracy to block development of fuel efficient vehicles, it's just physics and economics. This is why scientific and math education is so important for kids, it allows you to see through the BS.

    As for big pharma not wanting a cure for cancer, I don't even know why you'd say such a thing. Even if we found a simple, straight cure for cancer (which is unlikely), people would still get it (no changing that) and obviously that cure could be sold for a lot of money. It's economically viable to find a cure for cancer, and on top of that, the idea that everyone involved in pharmaceuticals is so selfish that they don't want a cure is cruel and unreasonable. They're just people like you and me.
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    Lol i know most of our fuels tax that still dont stop it costing the end user so much lol i was just stating there would be more to gain from vapour system if it was pulled off.
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    If you play with fire, you're gonna get your fingers (face) burnt !
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    I agree. I think he was "achieving" his "gas mileage" by running his car very lean.
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    hemmm my computer is being powered by Honda EU 3000 IS that is suckin vapor out of a gold peak tea jug RIGHT NOW it looks like a water bong or a meth lab but it WORKS:applause:
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    I think he just turned in Dodge Magnum into a Minimum. My 40mm Mikuni probably flows more air than those three hoses. As stated above, 14.7:1 (by weight) is the stoiciometric for gasoline/ air to combust completely (if perfectly mixed or homogenized). In reality, modern fuel systems run leaner at idle/ low load and richer under acceleration/ high load. His system has no means of adjusting air/ fuel ratio for different conditions. It will always be very lean which equals lack of power. No road test on video, wonder if it will actually untrack itself. The virtues of vapor carburetors were extolled many years ago, but went nowhere... and they were much more sophisticated than a gas can with hoses. I had a friend who actually built a vapor carb that used exhaust manifold heat to vaporize the gasoline. Blew the hood completely off of an old Lincoln, no kidding. He swore it ran beautifully but was gutless. He used to show off the charred remains of his "vapor carburetor". All that being said, those of you who are old enough may remember the name Smokey Yunick of automotive fame. He built a hot vapor system that may have had potential. But look at this article and see the engineering it took. Just my 2 cents.
    http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_1009_what_ever_happened_to_smokeys_hot_vapor_engine/