1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

Jakes 08 TXC250 -v- Kellys 2010 TXC250

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by Motosportz, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Went for a short ride yesterday with good friend Jake. this was our chance to try the 08 and 10 TXC 250 back to back. The area is a private trail system that does not get a ton of use. As such it is littered with slick tree limbs over slick clay with a 4" bed of leaves. Some killer long hill climbs and super tight, slip the clutch in 1st stuff. Slick on slick meant everyone found the ground a time or two. Buddy Cliff with a KTM525 was with us.

    I have always considered Jakes bike very good. Comes with one of the nicest stock suspensions I have ever used. Fun bike to ride, EZ going and just a great overall bike. Everyone who rides it agrees. Heck, David (fitness2go) loved it so much he got one. :)

    So we trade off. Jake takes off all hair on fire and looks like he has been riding the bike all his life. I struggled a little with his bike, it is amazing how much different they are. the 08 revs much slower, has a LOT less bottom end, and is very slow to respond compared to the 10. the 08 feels 15-20 pounds heavier and turns slower. As such the 08 is EZer to trail ride, softer and more manageable. More mellow.

    The 2010 version is much lighter feeling "125 like", has a comparatively explosive motor, turns quicker, and has tighter suspesnion. This makes it the racers choice hands down. No comparison. This bike is built to go fast and urges you to do so. As such it is also probably a little more demanding to ride. Throttle is light and the ample bottom end power can be a handful some times. Light feel and quick turning is great but also needs a little more attention. Don't get me wrong, you could trail ride slow and fun all day on the 10 but it is not a mild bike. Loves to loft the front end which makes it great for getting the front end over stuff, loves to jump off stuff with quick and deep bottom end power, and is a blast to throw around on the trail. It's a real nimble bike and with the quick power you can take a lot of different and fun lines. This bike, like Jakes, tracks and goes wherever you point it.

    Jakes forks are AWESOME. Hands down the best trail bike forks i have ever tried, period. The motor makes deliberate smooth power that builds forever. Where my bike is semi violent coming out of tight corners, his is smooth and linear. I love his bike but struggled with the power because after riding mine I was confused how to approach corners. I was a bobbling fool. It is my issue not the bike, 10 miles off reprogramming and I'd be good to go again. Jakes bike was hard for me to get the front end up which made me slow down to plan for branches and down trees. Ergos were about the same his bike feeling lower.

    Jake was frothing at the mouth and shaking his head after riding the 10 so i think he liked it.

    08 - trail master
    10 - Ricky racer

    Both :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
  2. SanDHusky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Campo
    Nice ride report....:applause:

    So Kelly, with the sparky out and your efi changes, it turnes into a fire breathing animal???

    I still havent been able to get my efi tuned, as per you and Tim's recommended settings, so still dreaming of that great low end thrust and increased power across the board....:D

    Cant wait, Mitch.
  3. john01 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Powhatan VA
    Thanks Kelly the ride report was kind of what I thought it would have been and I haven't been on either bike. I just figured Husky's 2010 Tc250 was so light, quick, and ready to race I was hoping they would do the same with the 10 TXC. Great report, thanks.
  4. jmetteer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Woodland, WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TXC300 CR125 CR144
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250F, TRANSALP
    Yep it is that good. :thumbsup:

    A few photo's from the day...

    The new...
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    The old...
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    Cliff on the 525...
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    Some scenery...
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    You would be soaked in minutes if you sat around...
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    Kelly's first try at this climb, click for video of the second. Kelly attempted to take video of me on the same one, somehow he failed.
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    Some trail trash I brought home with me.
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    Good times!

    Later,
  5. fitness2go Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Seattle WA
    Nice pics Jake. Jake also had something to say as well.

  6. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Dude, thats a funny vid. Those padded pants makes my ass look huge, like a chick :lol:

    Fun ride.
  7. krieg Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Matthews, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Many in the past
    Other Motorcycles:
    '12 Triumph Scrambler
    I just got online to post a big comparison between my '09 TXC and my '10 TC since I rode the TXC this weekend while at PA for Thanksgiving.

    I was going to say 99% of what was said in the posts above, so I decided not to start another post! :thumbsup:

    I agree with everything that Kelly said, albeit my '10 is a TC and not a TXC. The ONLY thing different in my comparo was the fact that my '09 has Kelly's steering damper which is a MOST unfair advantage. Let it be known if my TC 250 had Kelly's damper and E-start... it would (IMO) be the ultimate trail machine. Did I say ultimate? Yes. :notworthy:
  8. jmetteer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Woodland, WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TXC300 CR125 CR144
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250F, TRANSALP
    I wish you would have got the video of me doing nearly the same thing. I will give better lessons on how to use the camera next time, apparently push the button wasn't clear enough.:lol:

    Also I fell over at some point and cracked my clutch cover, first time in 25 years of riding.:banghead: I had a 7602 in check out this morning and didn't pull the trigger, yet.:D

    Later,
  9. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    there were several buttons, It was all scary and confusing :D Dunno, thought i pushed it and though i saw the indication that it was recording. :excuseme: Darned fancy electronic dodads anyways. :p

    Your vid looked just like mine but smaller ass. :D The first time you launched out in 2nd gear :thumbsup:
  10. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Great thread! :thumbsup:

    :cheers:
  11. husky123 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Leesburg, VA
    That thing sounds sweet!
  12. Darkside Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none left
    Other Motorcycles:
    beta, ktm, aprilia
    Watching that vid made me think "that's why you gotta love the electric start"
  13. WR BOB Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    North Carolina
  14. 2whlrcr Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Dubuque, IA
    The bike sounds noisy. Is the SA in or out?
  15. NumberCruncher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Wa State
    The bike did sound a bit loud in that video but without an SPL meter or something to compare it to, I don't think anyone can draw a conclusion. You could tape a CRF250X and up the gain to -.1db and it will play back very loud. Going back to my video/audio production days . . .

    I hope the TE has the same power band as the TXC does. I prefer a bike that gets a real plate and not a cheater but I don't want to give up performance.

    BTW, Kelly, have you looked behind the number plate to see if there is a wiring harness ready for a headlight?

    NC
  16. NWRider Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Do the thumpers tend to stall more or is it just that when you have an e-start you tend to not worry about grabbing the clutch quick? I ride the same type of terrain and stall maybe once during an entire ride on my 125. If I can do the same on a 250f then I really do not need the e-start. But I don't know if it's as easy to not stall on the 4 stroke?
  17. fitness2go Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Seattle WA
    Big bore 4 strokes stall much easier to me, but nothing that you can't master! It seems to happen when it gets really slow and technical.
  18. john01 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Powhatan VA
    A Rekluse Pro will also help with the stall issues on big bikes. My son's KTM SX505 is very ridable in the trails with one and I don't think it would be to fun without one.
  19. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Love the button. :thumbsup: rode a buddies WR250 with Rekluse yesterday and hated having to kick it all the time :D the button rules. This time of year lots of getting off the bike to move down limbs, fix trail etc and and efi e-start bike can just be tossed on the ground and go to work. Walk back, pick up the bike, hit the button and your off. LOVE it.
  20. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many