JD TUNER Died on my TE511

Discussion in 'EFI/carb' started by huskydude59, Jul 26, 2014.

  1. huskydude59 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Berwick
    Well went riding yesterday.. a bit wet a bit muddy. Had stopped for a break and a chin wag with the boys. I was telling them about the marvels of my JD TUNER under my seat. We were having a looksee, proudly show it off and all. Gave the throttle a Rapp like we all do, turned it off , then proceeded to get my gear bake then went to start her up and then nothing. Lights on but no start. Pulled the seat off for a look hit the button again and no fire in the hole. All the lights were blinking like it should but dead on the ignition. What the f&%$ do I do now.. so I went on to disconnect the tuner and plug the std unit back in... After about 30min it started, idling very high so reset tps. Idled it back down and all good. The question is..what failed.... Did I do something to when I was playing... look at me ... And now their is a FAIL flag on my Speedo... It all runs ok but I'm thinking not really...
  2. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    May not have been the JD, but a fault in the bike itself, like wet/loose connection....
    I'd start by checking all your efi connections dude. (Make sure not to have the ignition switch on with wires disconnected)
    Spray inside the plugs with a good electrical cleaner & treat the pins with some dielectric grease.
    Disconnect the battery to clear the Fail & see if it helps.
    If not start checking the sensors one at a time as per the manual....
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  3. huskydude59 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Berwick
    I know, it just seems weird that I had been goofing around show my mates just before it died. And to plug the normal map back in and it start straight up seems a bit strange.... I am thinking that I may have fried the unit, but all the lights were blinking but no start...
  4. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Haven't had anything to do with the JD tuners, could be I guess....
  5. duggoey Husqvarna
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    Location:
    NSW, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 690, Yamaha WR200, FGS650(800cc)
    They (JD units) can fail, mine did. I think water may have got into it somehow even though it was under tthe seat. Plug it back in and con firm that it doesnt start. Then you can blame the tuner instead of hunting for a gremlin that may not exist.
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  6. huskydude59 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Berwick
    will most probably plug it back in to confirm the failure. Contacted JD Rep here in Vic, they believe it should reset after TPS reset seeing how it was probably me revving it and turning it off whilst in the middle of a setting change....DOh.... Am waiting for the garage to get at least warm enough so my hands don't freeze
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  7. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Dude, what is it with your weather down there?? Ha ha. It was 28C here today in the middle of winter.:)

    Gotta love Queensland :thumbsup:
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  8. duggoey Husqvarna
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    Location:
    NSW, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 690, Yamaha WR200, FGS650(800cc)
    Forecast was for snow down to possibly sea level in Tas. Not sure if it got that cold but confirmed down to 200m in parts. It was 23C in NSW today but its about 5C now and about -5C with wind chill.
  9. Cosmokenney Husqvarna
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    North Auburn, CA
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    '17 TX300
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    Yamaha FZ-09
    I'd trade my first born for your weather, either of your's. Forecast here is for 106. It's 9:30 am and already almost 80. It's been like this for weeks. It's not normally this hot for this long, usually stays below 100 most days. 100+ is the exception. The constant 100+ temps get old after a while.
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  10. huskydude59 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Berwick
    Went to open the door to take a peek....no way...still too cold. I'm thinking maybe I bring my baby in side it looked so cold sitting out there... Oh well springs not too far away...
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  11. duggoey Husqvarna
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    Location:
    NSW, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 690, Yamaha WR200, FGS650(800cc)
    Haha, well our winters are generally mild, 10-20C on the NSW coast but winter is only really winter for about 2 1/2 months. Summer can be pretty hot. Max temps into the 40C's sometimes and isnt uncommon to have a weeks over 30C. Its worse inland over the hills.
    (Hijack, sorry Huskydude)
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  12. Suputin Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350
    Where is it exactly that you had your JD mounted? I had mine on top of the battery, under the retaining strap and it turns out that is not a good place for a JD unit. The seat ended up slowly crushing the tuner box. Luckily JD replaced it for me but they told me not to mount the thing in that location.
  13. JonXX Administrator

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    Bill's Motorcycles Plus
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    360CR 360WR SM610 TC450 TXC250 TC250
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    Hondas, Harleys, Yammys & a squid
    Check all of your connections also. I had what I thought was a fueling issue with my TXC250, when it was really the ground pin in the connector for the fuel pump relay. I got that solved and the next ride the ground wire for the JD Tuner broke off of the battery.
  14. huskydude59 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Berwick
    Well it has been a while since I put back the JD Tuner, had no issues until yesterday. Bike started great as always, until yesterdays ride, coming back from a 100k torture fest and the engine started to high idle. My thinking was the 2nd butterfly tab was hitting the cable BF. Got home and removed the stop on the arm that positions the cam. All good, bike revved out and come back to home idle. Come Sundays ride biked started great, went to take off and nothing above idle.. absolutely dead.. first thing was to go back to std map. Did that, still nothing. Having no extra knowledge it was back to the forum brains for some answers. My guess is fuel pump, Fuel Filter or ECU fail. Any one to second that thought....
  15. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Do you still have the second butterfly plate in place? If yes, then maybe the butterfly motor isn't doing its thing anymore.
    If no, then maybe fuel related as you suggest....
  16. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

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    Castaic, CA
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    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
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    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    Sounds like the ECU is confused? Maybe something is amiss after your work with the BF? Have you taken the power off the system and performed a new TPS reset? All I've got off the top of my head. Good luck, sucks to miss a planned ride for sure!
  17. huskydude59 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Berwick
    You bet danger...I am in the process of dissembling it ands found badly corroded pins on the coil.. Do you think that would be one of the culprits.... Can't get good resistance readings either. Hope these things don't cost too much..
  18. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Corrosion certainly won't help at all.
    Try a good spray of electronic cleaner & clipping together & removing several times. Then some dielectric grease & see how it is.
    It would be a good idea to treat & grease the other connections too. Do them one at a time & see if you can track down the culprit.
  19. huskydude59 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Berwick
    Do you have any values for the resistance on the plug cap.. I cant seem to get a reading..
  20. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    As below dude.

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