make that 10% count - bike setup

Discussion in 'Common Items on Husqvarnas: Tires/tubes/grips/etc' started by Motosportz, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    they say it is 10% bike 90% rider or some ratio, better make that 10% count.

    So yesterday I found myself working hard to case some crazy Canadian :D on a WR250 through the tight stuff. And as much as I love my Motoz tires I was pushing the front end in my efforts. At a rest stop I realized I have never checked my sag or tried different heights on the forks in the clamps since Les at LTR waved his magic wand. So I thought I would raise the forks some. They were already at 2 lines showing so I put it to 3. Was pretty amazed at the difference. Much improved front end stick. So I moved them so there were 3.5 lines showing which might be over the limit be WOW, turns hard and front end sticks like glue. Amazing. I also added a few clicks rebound to the forks to slow them down and also keep the ride height lower in front effectively steepening the geometry.

    The end result of raising the forks and tightening the rebound was much improved front end stick (like amazing), and much more trust in the front end. My speed obviously increased and i found keeping the fast friend from the north right at my front tire not as hard. It really did make all the difference in the world as to how hard I could push it. I was absolutely loving it again and could ride with nimbleness I had not had before.

    I kind of kick myself for not playing with geometry more as I know Huskys are very sensitive to this. I think I will blame it on LTR's fabulous suspension as it made me feel there was no need for improvement.

    Bottom line is if you don't like how your bike handles or need it to do something else make sure you mess with geometry and suspension settings. The difference it can make is alarming especially if you are riding nearer the limit of your comfort.

    Fork height / rear sag / rebound damping... these things can / will change in a large amount how your bike sets up and goes through stuff.

    Food for thought.
  2. eldgenb Husqvarna
    B Class

    Good to know, I will have to play with that for sand dune runnin.
  3. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    That would be the opposite of what I did. You will want to lower your forks in the clamps, add compression damping for the front. For the rear, more sag and more rebound. :thumbsup:
  4. Joe Chod Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    upstate NY
    HAd the same scanario at the National Enduro this year in Pa. rebound up front was too slow for the huge amount of giant rocks. was packing up and dancing like Sid Vicious on a Husky (a 77 model ta' boot!) Changed a couple of clicks at the gas and the afternoon resulted in half the dropped points I had al morning. Lesson learned by me for sure.

    Joe
  5. Zim Husqvarna
    A Class

    The last adjustment at terry Hays test track after he did the clicker thing,it was blowing out of ruts,fork up 1 line more,total of 2 showing and it held the rut snug,its amassing what 5mm can do to modern bikes.
  6. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    good reminder
  7. ioneater Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NW Texas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 TXC 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    08 Sprint
    Kelly, I raised my forks to the limit a few rides ago and found the bike to be much more sensitive to steering input the faster you ride as well. Almost too much for my slow butt. Downright scary on asphalt above 60, which I rarely do anyway. I put the forks there to try and get the bike lower. Couldn't even tell a difference in height really, but the steering, Wow. I'm starting to see what you mean by 10% as many things I really thought I'd like to change/replace have fallen to the wayside as I've gotten more used to the bike. In other words, the problem was me, not the bike. Haven't messed with clickers since May, just put everything toward the softer, slower side. Hmmmmm.
  8. pvduke Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    ... on the gas...
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tripple-hondo hoosk...
    Other Motorcycles:
    dozens of them, kicked to the curb
    Coming from a 'cupcake'?

    I'll say.

    :doh:

    ;)
  9. Kevin_TE250 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Boise Idaho
    Another Question

    So when you say 3 lines are you counting the top of the fork as a line ?
  10. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    No, I'll take a picture today. I'm sure i am running mine up higher than they are supposed to be but i really liked it for the tight stuff.
  11. Kevin_TE250 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Boise Idaho
    Cool... thanks. Counting the top I can see 2 lines....
  12. WoodsChick Administrator

    Location:
    Oakland, CA Miramonte, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    3 Terras, 2 `07 SM610s, `09 WB165,
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM, GasGas, Suzuki, Honda
    It's amazing to me the number of riders that go out and spend good money on a modern bike and then don't ever use what they've bought. I've known folks that never touched the clickers, and some have never even changed their fork oil! It's taken me a long time, and sometimes I miss the cues, but after I get fresh fork oil I can definitely tell the difference in the fork action.

    I wasn't all that happy with the front end action on my KTM 450 EXC when I got it. The thing steered like a Mack truck. After raising the forks a whopping 2 lines it felt like a whole new bike. Still has the turning radius of an Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser, but it hustles through the tight stuff much better, and it's much easier on me physically.

    I just put a 5gal tank on my 610 and had to mess with the clickers to stiffen up the front end so that it could handle all the extra weight on the front. They weren't kidding when they called it a "tank."



    WoodsChick
  13. Kevin_TE250 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Boise Idaho

    Hang in there WoodsChick... I'm tryin:D
  14. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    K,
    Are ya getting tire to rear inner fender burn/slap? Not really a big deal but just wondering. R
  15. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Nope, tire not hitting the fender. But then again I was weaving between he tress not hitting doubles.
  16. geastman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ontario
    Great tech tip, but I must protest your plan to case a fellow Canadian. I have chased Americans on occasion, but casing one never crossed my mind. If one fell in front of me, I would do my best to avoid. Failing that, I would try to minimize damage with a tire-only impact. Casing would be a last resort, not something I worked hard for ;).
  17. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    :D
  18. Kevin_TE250 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Boise Idaho
    raised the forks tonight... If I count the top I see 3 lines.. If not counting the top as a line I see 2 lines in the gold and it's lined up on the line below...

    So for semantics... am I technically running 2 lines ?

    Im pretty sure it's sitting on the last alignment line (it didn't look like there were any others below it... So Kelly it sounds like your above the last or third line ?

    Sorry for the questions just trying to make it turn a little better yet still be stable for Dez riding this winter :)
  19. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Is there more than two lines? Mine is currently on the second line. Doesn't look like a third line exists?

    Thanx!
  20. jmetteer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Woodland, WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TXC300 CR125 CR144
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250F, TRANSALP
    There is three lines on the 08 50mm twin chamber forks on the TXC... I am not sure about the single chamber 50mm on the TE or the older 45mm forks.

    Here is mine set at 2-1/2 lines... The third line is just below the top triple clamp.

    [IMG]

    Later,