More MOSS Tool woes...

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Leo Fisher, Aug 12, 2013.

  1. Leo Fisher Cafe Husky - Contributing Member

    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Honda and Norton
    If your local dealer, like mine, has returned his/her Moss tool to BMW, here is what Husqvarna has told me my options are:

    1. Find a BMW/Husqvarna dealer who has a tool up and running and go there or,

    2. As an alternative, have your dealer remove the ECU, Dashboard, key etc. and send them into Husqvarna where they will mount them to bike and run the tool and then send it all back for reinstallation.

    My phone calls to BMW indicated that they have washed their hands on Husky and will not support them by getting the Husky software or connectors unless they already have the tool and sell Husqvarna. After batting out there, I contacted KTM and one service rep told me and I quote ".. If KTM owns Husky, it's news to me.." (Remember, it's a private holding company of the KTM Owner - Not KTM Directly from what I gather.)

    So, I am looking for a shop in a nearby state where I might take the bike. Does anyone have any recommendations in Arizona or Colorado? If not and Husky won't reimburse fuel and lodging, I may be going for option #2.
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  2. PDL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    amarillo, texas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TE 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda Crf 450X, Ktm 625 SXC....
    Leo, did PJ's in Albuquerque send their MOSS back? I hope not. The dealer in Muskogee, Oklahoma, does not have one as far as I know. I will check next week when I'm in the area.
  3. Leo Fisher Cafe Husky - Contributing Member

    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Honda and Norton
    Yes, PJ sent his back ;-( I think he sees the writing on the wall with Husqvarna)
  4. bluegopher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Woodland Park, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Big D Motorsports in Woodland Park, CO has the MOSS tool and is not getting rid of it. I confirmed this with Dan, the owner, last week. He's a great guy and runs a great shop. He's not far from Colorado Springs. Not too bad of a trip from Albuquerque. There is a shop down in Montrose too but I haven't dealt with them so I'm not sure if they have the MOSS tool or not.
  5. Ryguy Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Escondido California
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 terra
    Yeah there is a shop in montrose CO, that's where I got my bike. Seriously doubt they have the moss tool as they only had a few Terra's and no stradas.
  6. glangston Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Gardnerville, NV and Mammoth Lakes, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 Husqvarna TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    2012 BETA 350 RS
    Wonder why not just the ECU?
  7. chris1261 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada
    My guess is that the dash is married to the ECU - perhaps to keep the odometer accurate. you won't be able to swap the odo out without a moss tool. The key is also mapped to the dash + ecu. not sure why they would design it that way, who knows it may be a software licensing issue. God knows those things are screwed up enough!
  8. Leo Fisher Cafe Husky - Contributing Member

    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Honda and Norton
    My Terra is back at PJ's as I write this - It overheated on me three times in local traffic - Apparently, it's an issue they are aware of since they have radiators, thermostats and caps in stock! I can't trust it for a jaunt up to Colorado and I don't think I should have to pay for the gas to take it up in my F-150 or for the hotel overnight. However, I may have to resort to that. We'll see... One issue at a time.
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  9. Trapperj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Knoxville TN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200 GS RALLY..KLR 650..Zrx 1200
    Sorry for your troubles..the overheating issue is probably a big air bubble....it's been covered here somewhere and on Adv. Rider too I believe. Finding a dealer who's willing to help and your problems will be over. I believe many of the overheating issues were caused from the dealer not following a set procedure when brand new. Allowing several minutes to idle....theirs a thread somewhere that covers this too. I wish you were closer...we have Eurosport in Asheville NC. they'd be glad to help if your ever close. You are one step closer to finding the answer just from postin on Cafe Husky...invaluable information here. Good luck....you'll get it right I believe!
  10. Scutler Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TW200 Sold, 2009 SuzukiGS500F Sold
    Our bikes are like orphans just waiting for somebody to support them :excuseme:. C'mon KTM!!
  11. oregonsage 4st Clerk

    Location:
    Dry Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FX450
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha DT400 x 2, BMW G310R
    Dont despair, the orphanage is getting larger. More Stradas are on their way to dealers.

    Imagine that a bike owner could buy or rent a cable to connect the bike to a computer and then a technician could access and adjust that bike from anywhere in the world. We do this all the time with computer software now.....there just needs to be a little paradigm shift to get this to happen in the motorcycle world.
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  12. Trapperj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Knoxville TN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200 GS RALLY..KLR 650..Zrx 1200
    Eurosport Asheville NC has 3 2014 Terra's @ 6k each!
  13. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE
    That issue is so widespread I doubt it's the dealers fault. More likely the factory procedure is faulty, if there is one.
  14. Trapperj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Knoxville TN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200 GS RALLY..KLR 650..Zrx 1200
    Likely that after the first 10 or 20 reports of overheating by dealers they came up with a "procedure"

    Absoultey right that it should have been handled at the factory....maybe as easy as having the bike run long enough to reach operating temp then topping off the fluids.
  15. Riding Again Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Palm Coast, FL.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sold TriumphTiger800xcx, TR650 Terra
    Was happening to me. Amazing how just the small bubbles makes such a difference. At least with mine there was barely any bubbles come out but popped the radiator cap filled it to the top and watched it warm up. Presto no more problems
  16. Leo Fisher Cafe Husky - Contributing Member

    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Honda and Norton
    The dealer was, as of yesterday, waiting to take it on a more lengthy ride - 20 miles or so at highway speeds - and then pull over and let it idle for a period. I'm hoping they know about the bubble/burping issue but they are pursuing a stoppage somewhere in the radiator since they are receiving reports that one side of the rad is hot and the other side not. We'll see.
  17. Bob McKay Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Fall River, NS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra TR650
    I'm new here and not sure where to post this. I just bought a new Terra. Here in eastern Canada it's getting a bit cold so I haven't had much chance to ride it yet and so far have not noticed any issues. My question is regarding the MOSS process. I've noticed several folks post that they do not have an issue with the bike but still noticed a marked improvement after having it MOSSed. What is Huskies take on the MOSS process? Do I need to be experiencing a specific issue to have it done? I know my dealer does NOT have the tool. If it does always make an improvement, why are the bikes not shipped from the factory with it done?
  18. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    Sounds like we need to get a confirmed list of dealers with the MOSS tool and the intent to keep them.
  19. bluegopher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Woodland Park, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    I can confirm through more than one conversation, most recently a couple weeks ago, that Big D's in Woodland Park, CO has no plans to get rid of their MOSS tool. Dan is committed to servicing the Terra's and Strada's he sold. I'm very happy about this.
  20. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    I have had Big D do the MOSS dance with my Terra twice now. Good shop!
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