1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

Motoplat setting the ignition

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by stormer254, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. stormer254 Husqvarna
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    England
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    More than I dare let her know
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    I am timing the ignition on my 420 Auto with internal magnet Motoplat and lacking a manual to check this is what I have done.
    1. locate rotor on key way and torque up
    2. Locate stator and lightly tighten screws
    3 Set engine to TDC
    4 Turned engine back to ignition point (2.5 mm before TDC)
    5 Move stator round till mark on rotor lines up with mark on the rotor
    6 Tighten stator screws

    Before I start kicking and break something have I done the job correctly, all advise and knowledge gratefully received.
  2. grouty Auto Lover ...

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    South West UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    78 390WR, 78 390 AMX, 500 Humph
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    works 73 CCM 520, another 73 CCM520
    Sounds about right Steve.
  3. 2premo Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC

    to prevent breakage retard it some
    I run 1.9 on my 430's and 500's
    RUF likes this.
  4. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    yup, i would also advise against running full advance spec unless you "really" want max bottom end and throttle response..
  5. stormer254 Husqvarna
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    Thanks, the manuals I had saved to my computer only have the outside flywheel information where you use a pin. I don't believe I have ever seen the setting up of the internal rotor in the manuals that are no longer there.
  6. stormer254 Husqvarna
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    Backed the timing back a bit to 2mm no need to get too carried away!!
  7. cheko7 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    hunter valley nsw aus
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85 500CR 94 250WR 04 125CR 10 300WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    Cagiva WMX 250 88 2/89WMX125s
    Hay mate scatching my head here I'm looking at the ignition on my 500 same as yours
    Did you line the marks up on the mag to the stator advance line
    I have a dial indicater set at 2.1 bftdc and not enough adjustment
    It's doing my head in your help would be great
    Cheers cheko
  8. stormer254 Husqvarna
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    More than I dare let her know
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    Yes, rotor wound back to about 1.8 / 2.0 mm BTDC, stator then moved to line marks up. Motor starts without kick back and runs well, only a quick blast round the field though. How much more movement do you need? Advanced or retarded?
  9. cheko7 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    hunter valley nsw aus
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85 500CR 94 250WR 04 125CR 10 300WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    Cagiva WMX 250 88 2/89WMX125s
    To get it at 2.1mm BTDC it has to go back heaps image.jpeg
  10. cheko7 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    hunter valley nsw aus
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85 500CR 94 250WR 04 125CR 10 300WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    Cagiva WMX 250 88 2/89WMX125s
    Where it's at now it's a bit hard to start and iit seams to be a TDC
    The black texter marks on the case and stator are how it is now
    The pic above is where 2.1 is with out moving the stator
  11. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    on the internal, dont you line up the mark on the flywheel and the mark on the stator?
  12. cheko7 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    hunter valley nsw aus
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85 500CR 94 250WR 04 125CR 10 300WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    Cagiva WMX 250 88 2/89WMX125s
    When the lines line up its on TDC
    There is not enough movement in the stator plate to move it around to line it up
  13. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    ok, gotcha..was just making sure when you mentioned the case..
    so you are arent able to get the marks to line up when the engine is at your desired 2.1 btdc? odd issue, i wonder if the piston is aftermarket and a different dome shape??
  14. cheko7 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    hunter valley nsw aus
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85 500CR 94 250WR 04 125CR 10 300WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    Cagiva WMX 250 88 2/89WMX125s
    Hmm now you got me a thinking
    Tried to start it this arvo kick kick kick cough ten times get a new plug tomorrow and try again
    Might wip the head off and have a look at the piston give the timing the once over with the head off
    If I'm using a dial indicater piston shape shouldn't really matter wouldn't you think
  15. Darrel78 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 WR430
    Piston shape will not matter as TDC is TDC regardless.
  16. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    i guess it shouldnt matter since you are re-zeroing the gauge at top dead then measuring advance..
    dumb question..you are measuring advance and not retarding right?
  17. Darrel78 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 WR430
    Direction is everything!
  18. cheko7 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    hunter valley nsw aus
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85 500CR 94 250WR 04 125CR 10 300WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    Cagiva WMX 250 88 2/89WMX125s
    Put a new plug in this arvo br7 from a br9 starts a bit better get some front cogs next week I'll leave the timing were it is it's not kicking back fiddle with the jetting rock the stater a bit if I have to
    Old mate that bought my 86 250 of me give me a contact of an old husky guru that live 30 mins away I'll call on him if need be
    I was trying for 2.1 BTDC the rota lines up with the stator a TDC
    I'm kinda thinkin the key way might have sheard and maybe someone has just made it work
    I'll wip the rota off and have a look
  19. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    i had a thought...(smelled something burning)..
    dug a spare internal motoplat out..there are two sets of slotted screws to adjust these..
    one set holds the stator to adapter plate...
    another set holds adapter plate to case..
    cheko, you have both sets of these screws maxed out and still cant get the 2 hash marks to line up and desired btdc mm setting?
  20. cheko7 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    hunter valley nsw aus
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85 500CR 94 250WR 04 125CR 10 300WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    Cagiva WMX 250 88 2/89WMX125s
    The way the stator mounts to the plate there is no movement the two screws at the front bolt up tight to the ends of the slots
    Trying to find rotor puller it's in the organised mess somewhere I have 3 can only find the one I don't need