OE Mufflers - opened to see whats inside/layout

Discussion in 'TR650' started by kiwiape, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    I apologise if this has been asked/done already.

    ..has anyone opened the OE mufflers to see the layout inside?
  2. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Yes. Try some searching, there's definitely threads about it. Try advrider also.

    Basically, cat in front 1/3rd, nothing exciting in the rest, except for spark arrestor in the tail (unless it's a strada).
  3. Newfoundlander Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    No spark arrestor in the Strada?
  4. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115
    Anyone got tips on how to extract the spark arrestors on a Terra that has done 13500 km and they are well stuck in there from day one. Circlips are out and mufflers off with penetrating oil in the spark arrestor area but nothing works.
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  5. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Try heat and/or cooling?
  6. Newfoundlander Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    So my spark arrestors came out fairly easily on my 1350 km TR650. The tweeter stopped squeaking but lots of fine packing material came flying out.

    2 Questions...

    How do i stop tweety from chirping?

    How can i keep the spark arrestors from seizing in without removing them completely?
  7. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    GPR exhaust should do the trick for you.
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  8. Newfoundlander Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra

    Im not really interested in spending money on an aftermarket muffler. I like the sound of the stock pipes.

    Would something like this work? Linky
  9. Scott Jones Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    western Finger Lakes, New York
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    1995 Kawasaki KLR 250 2016 Beta XT
    "How do i stop tweety from chirping?" :)

    I bought mine used and the spark arrestors had been removed. The PO had been a poster on here before trading it in and I contacted him. Fortunately he still had them and sent them to me but said, "You'll hate them because it'll chirp with them in." It did.

    I cannot for the life of me remember where I'd read it, but someone somewhere posted something about using bicycle head spacers to fill the little cut-outs at the end of the arrestors that appeared to be the source of the tweet. It worked.

    I posted a more detailed description of the fix, so let me search back through this forum and Adv to find it and I'll cut and paste here.
  10. Scott Jones Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    western Finger Lakes, New York
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    1995 Kawasaki KLR 250 2016 Beta XT
    Well that didn't take long. From my post on Adv, describing Dangslow's fix in this forum:


    The problem and one fix was described by Dangslow on huskycafe. Problem was exhaust flow over/through the two holes in the inner ring of the arrestor that you use to remove them. He used a 1" steel split spacer capped with 1 1/8" aluminum bicycle steering head spacers.

    I didn't have and couldn't locate the steel split spacer he used but did manage to find out from a co-worker who bikes what the hell a steering head spacer was. He happened to have a pack of 1" x 5mm black aluminum ones that he gave me to try. They fit perfectly over the inner ring, pretty much a press fit. I tapped them in with a punch. Two of the 5mm rings covered the holes and left just enough of the inner ring to stake them lightly in place with a chisel. Absolutely unobtrusive, aren't coming out - and no chirp!

    And arrestor-extraction holes can still be used. I installed the arrestors with a skim of anti-seize around the area where they mate with the muffler and had no problem popping them back out using two metal picks.

    Turns out they make the 1" steering head spacers in various lengths (5, 10, & 20mm), in several colors, and even carbon fiber. Who knew?! A single 10mm on each side would be perfect. A 5-pack of the aluminum ones is $10.56 on amazon, and no doubt available at a bike shop.

    So if your TR chirps and you're not fond of it, a cheap and easy solution is available.

    So there you have it. Apparently, like much else with these bikes, some people have one issue or the other, others don't.


    At any rate, thanks, Dangslow, if you've still got the Terra.
  11. Scott Jones Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    western Finger Lakes, New York
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    1995 Kawasaki KLR 250 2016 Beta XT
    And having just re-read that, it suggests a solution to trying to remove arrestors that have been in place too long.

    A vice grip slide hammer (or two) working with 2 substantial 90 degree bend picks might work them loose, especially with a bit of heat. I've seen the grip slide hammer set up but can't recall if it was a purchased or crafted item. Consult google.

    Edit: Jeez, google has LOTS of choices! Let us know if it works.
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  12. 268fords Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Powell, Wyoming
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08' TE510'
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda CRF 100, Kawasaki KLX 110
    Dan at Motoxotica had shown me a trick with using a bb. You drill a small indentation inside where the spark arrestor touches the silencer. Drill a little at a time until the bb sits inside the hole just enough that it will wedge up against the spark arrestor and not allow it to vibrate.
  13. Scott Jones Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    western Finger Lakes, New York
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    1995 Kawasaki KLR 250 2016 Beta XT
    "wedge up against the spark arrestor and not allow it to vibrate."

    Good advice, although I'm not sure the TR650 chirp is vibration. It really is an odd sound that occurred with deceleration and presumably a lot of back pressure in the exhaust. I can't say for certain that it wasn't vibration because the head spacer fix did snug things up too.

    The other thing that's an unknown - at least on mine - is the effect of the catalytic converts on exhaust flow and chirp issue. Hard for me to say because I dealt with the chirp shortly after getting the bike and the catalytic converts were intact. Then somehow while inspecting the interior of the pipes I notice large honey comb-like things in them and figured it had to be some sort of beehive or maybe dirt daubers (crafty buggers) so of course I removed the offending blockage. Chirp still gone but no way to tell if simply removing the cats would have made it disappear withouut any other effort.
  14. 268fords Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Powell, Wyoming
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08' TE510'
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda CRF 100, Kawasaki KLX 110
    My 510 had made that weird chirp with the factory pipe that had the cat. Still made it with the arrow with the power up kit. It's just some weird husky thing I guess. I've never heard another brand do it, just the husky's.
  15. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    had a look around no luck, anyone seen any pics anywhere..?
  16. Scott Jones Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    western Finger Lakes, New York
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    1995 Kawasaki KLR 250 2016 Beta XT
    I never posted any because I suck trying to do phone pics. If someone really wants to see what I did I guess I can pull it apart and show pics of parts and installation. Might take me a bit to get around to it, and the pictures will still suck, but I'll do it if necessary.
  17. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Hey Scott thanks, by pull apart if its an easy unbolt then cool, but if its a cut job don't worry, something will turn or I'll just cut mine open anyway
  18. ediehl Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ulysses, Norge, Goldwing
    I used a seal removal tool on mine, which I bought cheap at a local auto parts stores. It's got a couple of 'hooks' to either side, and you can rotate around the baffle and break it free a bit at a time. One muffler was easier than the other, on my Terra
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  19. Yort999 Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Tiger 1050
    Anyone got any pics of the circlips to be removed to get the spark arrestors out?
  20. CarstenB Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    F650GS Dakar