Petition for urgent ECU/MAP update - Husqvarna 650 Random Low Speed Stall

Discussion in 'TR650' started by kiwiape, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Petition for urgent ECU/MAP update - Husqvarna 650 Random Low Speed Stall.

    Attn; Magneti Marelli, BMW, KTM, you have a duty of care to these owners /customers.

    This petition demonstrates to the above companies, they have a duty of care to owners of the Husqvarna 650 Terra/Strada, to correct the "Random Low Speed Stall". This random occurrence can and does place riders in a dangerous situation (stalled in the middle of the road) when negotiating traffic and intersections.


    Could owners of this bike please list the following information on there own separate post (do not quote this post);

    Model ;
    Year ;
    Serial number ;
    Owners name ;
    Dealer name :
    Odometer reading;
    When did this problem first occur;
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ;
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation;

    Brief comment (optional) ;

    Guys, I need you all to post on this thread, so we can show the extent of this problem in an effort to have this very simple problem (that we can't resolve ourselves) rectified.

    15 June 2014. I have added another line "When did this problem first occur;"
  2. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Model ; TR650
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ;ZKHOH11CODVxxxxxx
    Owners name ;Kiwiape
    Dealer name : Hamilton, New Zealand.
    Odometer reading; 6454km
    When did this problem first occur; After 1500km
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 40-50
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; 10

    Brief comment (optional) ; Fantastic bike, love it, I just dont want to get run over by a Mack Truck because it stalled on me in the middle of the road!
  3. cbxtc6 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    N. IL.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Tiger, GTS, Duc
    Model ; TR650
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKHOH12AODV00xxxx
    Owners name ; cbxtc6
    Dealer name : Countryside BMW, Illinois
    Odometer reading; 6320 (miles)
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 100
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; 20+

    Brief comment (optional) ; Stalling issue should be an easy fix by ECU flash, or update.
  4. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Model : TR650 Terra
    Year : 2014
    Serial number : ZKH0H12A7EV028647
    Owners name: Charles
    Dealer name : Gateway BMW, St. Louis, Missouri
    Odometer reading: 5200 miles
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) : 20-25 occurring since November 2013
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation: Three times, the worst of which caused me to stall in an extremely busy city intersection. I was hit from behind by a car that expected me to be moving. I had left the stop light and the bike stalled suddenly and without provocation or driver input. My bike was forced forward by her momentum thus knocking me from the bike placing my person in the oncoming traffic.

    Brief comment (optional): This a very serious situation that has been a constant problem since the purchase of this bike. Dealers do not have the MOSS fix to correct this problem. I have filed a complaint with the National Highway and Safety Board. To insure resolution to this problem.
  5. PaulC F class

    Location:
    Bayside Brisbane, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2 2018 YZ 450F, 2019 CRF1000AT
    Model ; TR650
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKH0H11BYDVxxxxxx
    Owners name ; Paul
    Dealer name : Queensland, Australia
    Odometer reading; 11750klm
    When was did this problem first occur; 1st Week
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 100+
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; 20+,directly attributed to the random low speed stall.
    Brief comment (optional) ; Love the bike, and I would like to keep it.... But the random low speed stall issue is a real safety concern. Whether its turning into on coming traffic or being hit from behind the risk is very genuine. Believe Me.
    My son has a learners licence and I'm loath and reluctant and not keen to let him ride the TR on the road, because of this stalling issue.
  6. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Model ; TRS650 Strada
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKH0H12B3DVxxxxxx
    Owners name ; Chad
    Dealer name ; Grand Prix Motorsports, Littleton, CO
    Odometer reading ; 3419 miles
    When did this problem first occur ; since new, within the first 1000 miles
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 12
    Number of times you have been placed in dangerous situation ; 5
  7. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    Model ; TR 650 Terra
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKH0H12A2DV004710
    Owners name ; Jeff
    Dealer name ; Hall's Motorcycles Springfield, IL
    Odometer reading ; 13250 miles
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 100+
    Number of times you have been placed in dangerous situation ; 10
    Brief comment: Mossed 4 times. Last time to V14. Still stalling off idle.
  8. Biff Malibu Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sydney, Northern Beaches
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda CRE 500, 2003 Harley Deuce.
    Model : TR650
    Year. : 2013
    Serial # : ZKHOH11B9DVXXXXXX
    Owner : Craig
    Dealer. : Northside - Spokes & Treads
    Artarmon, Sydney
    Odometer : 5634 km
    Radom stalls aprox : 45
    Dangerous situations : 11 times. Usually turning across oncoming traffic or taking off from stop signs and traffic lights.
  9. James Rideout Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Rm250, DR650
    Model ; TR650 Terra
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKH0H12A9DV*******
    Owners name ; James
    Dealer name : RPM Cycle. Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Canada
    Odometer reading; 5052 Km
    When was did this problem first occur; Within days of taking delivery
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 50+
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; 20+. I am required to ride the clutch on start of an intersection so the bike will not stall.

    If the outside ambient temp is above 25 deg C and the bike is fully warmed up the bikes idol is very erratic. Requires throttle input (blips) so the bike wont stall just idling.

    To the best of my knowledge there is no "MOSS" tool available in any dealer in all of Canada.
  10. Master_Chief Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW F800GS, BMW R120GS, Beta 525RR
    Model ; TR650 Terra
    Year ; 2014
    Serial number ; ZKH0H12A8EV028656
    Owners name ; Jack
    Dealer name : Big #1Motorsports Birmingham, AL USA
    Odometer reading; 2034 Miles
    When was did this problem first occur; From Day 1
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 100+
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; 25+. Pulling at a stop sign and traffic signals.

    When pulling out bike stalls, I nearly get read-ended by cars or motorcycles behind me. Every time I start out I must be super defensive on what I will do if the bike stalls again so I can survive.
    This problem should be handled by the manufacturer and dealers as a recall, not by charging the customer to pay to fix their mapping flaws. Mapping and driveability changes are not covered under warranty at dealers - and not every owner has a dealer nearby.
  11. Nick780 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 Suzuki GS400E
    Model ; TR 650 Strada
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKHOH12B0DDVxxxxxx
    Owners name ; Nick
    Dealer name : Courtenay Motorsports
    Odometer reading; 3,000 km
    When did this problem first occur; First lean stall was on the second day
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 40+
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; At least 5.

    No Husky dealer in all of Canada, that I can tell, can MOSS these bikes.
    ScottyR likes this.
  12. msmith345 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Shawnee, KS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '12 WR250, '92 360, '80 390
    Other Motorcycles:
    '72 Yamaha R5, '17 SV650
    Model ; TRS650 Strada
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKHOH12B8DVxxxxxx
    Owners name ; Matt Smith
    Dealer name : Donnell's Motorcycles, Independence, MO
    Odometer reading; ~5000 miles
    When did this problem first occur; Within the first 100 miles.
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; 50-100, hard to say as its been so frequent at times.
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; 12, in traffic taking off from a stop light is the most common.

    *edit: VIN blocked off per request. My name isn't going to give you much outside of the 11th Doctor and the mysterious vanishing of a prodigy game developer from the 80's.
  13. amdgreign Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Model : Terra 650
    Year : 2014
    Serial number: ZKH0H12A5DV006080
    Owners name: Mike DR
    Dealer name : Granstar Phils.
    Odometer reading: 1100
    When did this problem first occur: from the dealer
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx): more than 50 times
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation: more than 10 times; like taking off from traffic or slowing down
  14. blueghost75 Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Arvada, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Model: Terra 650
    Year: 2013
    Serial number:ZKH0H12A7DV00xxxx
    Owners name: Dave
    Dealer name : Grand Prix Motorsports, Littleton, CO
    Odometer reading: 2500
    When did this problem first occur: Right off the lot. 0 miles.
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) : 20
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation: 20

    Brief comment (optional) : This would otherwise be a great bike. Can't stand the stalling though. Would be happy if Husky bought my bike back, I'll just get a KTM 690 instead.
  15. NorthnTerraTory Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Darwin,Northern Territory,The Top End of Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Model:Terra 650
    Year:2013
    Serial No. ZKH0H11B8DVxxxxxx
    Owners name:Scott
    Dealer name:Cyclone Motorcycles, Darwin, N.T, Australia
    Odometer reading:4024kms
    When did this problem first occur?: from day one.
    Number of random stalls to date: 100+
    Number of times placed in dangerous situation:20+
    This needs to be fixed, or you may have a serious liability case on your hands, not to mention a death on your conscience!
    engineerk9 likes this.
  16. husky duc Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Louisiana
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '11 Ducati Multistrada, '05 KTM 450
    Model ;650 terra
    Year ;2013
    Serial number ;ZKHOH12A9DV003425
    Owners name ;WAYNE
    Dealer name :BMW OF NORTH DALLAS
    Odometer reading;6400 MILES
    When did this problem first occur;W/I FIRST MONTH
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ;15-20
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation;AT LEAST 5

    Brief comment (optional) ; DON'T LET ANYONE ELSE RIDE DUE TO DANGEROUS SITUATION
  17. run-it Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Long Beach, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '04 Guzzi V11
    Model ; Husqvarna TR650 Strada
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKH0H12B8DVxxxxxx
    Owners name ; run-it
    Dealer name : 3 BROS KTM
    Odometer reading; 3900
    When did this problem first occur; First day of ownership 5-28-13
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; >25
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; >20
    Brief comment (optional) ; Dealer unable to correct the condition
    PaulC likes this.
  18. khstock Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    terra tr 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    yamaha xt 1200
    Model ; Husqvarna Terra 650
    Year ;2013
    Serial number ;ZKH0H11C2DV005875
    Owners name ;Karlheinz Stocker
    Dealer name :Ressler, Mmmingen, Germany
    Odometer reading;1200
    When did this problem first occur;Secand day of driving
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ;>10
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation;At least 3

    Brief comment (optional) ;For a Motorbike adressed also to beginners, this is really dangerous
  19. bikehunter Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Hampshire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Harley, bmw, moto guzzi
    Model ; Husqvarna TR650 Strada
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ;ZKH0H11E4DVxxxxxx
    Owners name ; N.Hartup
    Dealer name : Husky Sport, Winchester UK
    Odometer reading; 1900 miles
    When did this problem first occur; First day of ownership 22-06-13
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; >8
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; >8
    Brief comment (optional) ; Replaced with Euption to keep my life safe. Stalled on one occasion and nearly fell off the bike , resulting in leg injury.
  20. megatiker75 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Italia (Liguria)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZX6R 2001
    Model ; Husqvarna TR650 Terra
    Year ; 2013
    Serial number ; ZKH0H11A7DV0xxxxx
    Owners name ; Roberto R.
    Dealer name : X Moto Genova (Italy)
    Odometer reading; Circa 6000 Km
    When did this problem first occur; First day (da subito, il giorno stesso in cui l'ho ritirata)
    Numbers of random stalls to date (approx) ; >50
    Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation; >20
    Brief comment (optional) ; Questo è un problema potenzialmente mortale per chi guida la moto. Mi è già capitato di cadere in mezzo ad un incrocio e di rischiare di essere tamponato dalle macchine dietro me alla partenza dal semaforo.