1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

All 2st Pipe/Expansion Chamber Shape

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by mikebru, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    What is it about the shape of a 2 stroke pipe that makes it a top or bottom end power pipe?

    How does the shape influence the power? Influence jetting?

    I have a DEP pipe on my WR250 that seems good to me. I also have a slightly dented Gnarly I'm thinking about trying for the heck of it. I'm not a racer, just a woods rider. However, I don't want to mess up a good thing and have to fool around with jetting. I heard the Gnarly is a "bottom end pipe".

    Thanks
    Mike
  2. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
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  3. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    Thanks. I see it's not a short answer. I found some videos on YouTube.
  4. mikebru Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ocean County, NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR250; 2012 TE449; 2005 TE450
    Good article, Ohmygewd.

    I guess I have a more basic question: Can somebody look at a pipe, without knowing the pipe's characteristics, and say it is a bottom end or top end pipe?

    Thanks
    Mike
  5. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000

    Hey Mike, you can by looking how the pipe tapers from both end of the cone, the length of the header section and the size of the cone, gradual tapering, longer header and smaller cone generally say's l'm more a torque pipe whilst the opposite are more HP with over rev.
    Great visual example is compare the FMF Gnarly vs Fatty and then SST...then again, if correctly adjusting the port timings to one of these pipe's, you can 'tune' bike to the exhaust, then we get into the area of porting/timing and ignition= $$$

    What are you after?
  6. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    A mirical by the sound of, lol
    Yes you can as omg has said you can also buy books and read about all the equasions and designs of pipes / porting two strokes.
    Most say they are a simple engine design but f me sideways there is alot more too it the most give credit.
    Also if your after top end you can start messing with compression ratios and port timing knife edging transfer ports and flowing corners slightly more... Or you can just ride and live without that ever coming up again.
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  7. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Wholeheartedly agree Juicy, this is where the term black art of 2 strokes was coined...if you've got plenty of coin and can find one of these tuners, then you can have a barrels/heads and pipes custom made to whatever application your after.
    4t engine tuning is far easier then 2t's in terms of extracting that 5%-1% of power.