PJ1 Filter Cleaner?

Discussion in 'Common Items on Husqvarnas: Tires/tubes/grips/etc' started by Coffee, Nov 2, 2008.

  1. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Anyone have an opinion on this stuff?

    Filter Cleaner part number 899-068
    http://www.sudco.com/pj1.html

    I'm trying to clean some really dirty filters and 'weird' is about the only way I can describe the experience.
  2. Creeper Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ravensdale, WA.
    I've used it in the past... but currently use the NoToil oil and cleaner. What aspect of it is "weird" Dean?

    C
  3. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Weird.... hmmmm..... well weird! :lol:


    SUPER dirty & sticky airfilter. Sprayed on the stuff as directed and waited 20 minutes. Then hosed off with water - all as directed.

    It still has some residue so I wrung it out, shook it off, and sprayed it again. It's almost time to hose off again.

    Weird.

    How does it change air filter oil & dirt into something that can be hosed off? Does the stuff being hosed off hurt grass or stain concrete?
  4. Creeper Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ravensdale, WA.
    I don't have a can to read, but the link you provided says:

    "Rinses out with soap and water"

    Sounds like you used water only. Is there suppose to be some sort of soap component involved, or do you actually just rinse with water and it's suppose to leave a squeaky clean filter?

    C
  5. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Great stuff, used it for years. Wish I could find something that worked as well yet cost a lot less.

    K
  6. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    The can only mentions "hose off", no soap.

    Here is another link but because the site is flash based I cannot link to the exact product :(
    http://www.pj1.com/
  7. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    So how many times do I clean the filter? Can't tell if it is clean or not.

    .
  8. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    usually 1 application works great for me. I don't let filters get that dirty unless it is a dusty race i can't change them at.
  9. Creeper Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ravensdale, WA.
    I generally go by when I can't feel any kind of oily residue... just like if you were holding a brand new, un-oiled filter.
    I even look at it inside and out under a magnifying glass for little particles that didn't make it out in the rinse.

    That might be overkill... but I've done it like that for a few hundred years, so I'm not going to break tradition now. :D
  10. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Oh ok, we have a young one amongst us! :lol:


    Got the hang of it. When rinsing - fill with water, squeeze out, repeat a few times. Might have been ok with one application, next time!



    The stuff coming out looks and feels like meconium. It's been a few years since I've seen that but I'll not forget.
  11. Creeper Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ravensdale, WA.
    Don't make me hit you with my cane. :p

    Could be worse... could look like Vegemite.
  12. gandalf Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South Jersey
    I use the PJ1 cleaner as well and am very impressed with how well it works. The first time I used almost a whole can and later realized a good soaking and then wait 15 minutes. Worked great! I don't usually let them get too bad, but I was in a race that was a complete dust storm in August and it worked perfectly. That filter had at least a 1/4 inch coat of dust on it. My rinsing routine is with a hose with some pressure while massaging the filter with one hand. I usually rinse for a good 10 or 15 minutes too. For the record, this stuff will kill grass and stain concrete. I usually spray the cleaner on over an area where I don't want anything to grow.
  13. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    Twin Air Liquid Dirt Remover, then hot water and Dawn dish soap. The Ancients:oldman: taught me that the cleaner gets the dirty oil out, but the soap and water gets the dirt out.
    Norman
  14. Mercury264 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Metrowest, MA
    Used the PJ1 cleaner and oiler for a few years now on all my bikes. I generally give the filter a good spray with the cleaner and work it in with my hands and let it sit for a while and then just rinse it off with water. Let the filter dry and oil.
  15. Darkside Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none left
    Other Motorcycles:
    beta, ktm, aprilia
    I haven't had very good luck with any of those cleaners. I wound up going back to using gasoline. I save about half a gallon in a plastic jug and use it over and over. The dirt settles on the bottom. Not sure sure what I'm going to do when it's time to dispose of it though.
  16. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Burn pile starter :thumbsup:

    I don;t use gas because it is hard on filters and I do not run my backfire screen.

    I spray the filter down well, put it in a plastic bag and kneed it some, close the bag and let it sit for about 10-15 minutes. Then just take it out and rinse it real well. mine dries like it never had oil on it before and looks new. Love that stuff just wish it was $2 a can instead of $6.
  17. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Up until now diesel fuel has worked well and is a little less flammable. Tupperware container with lid in the garage, put dirty filter in & wash, then soap & water rinse.

    Let it dry then oil filter.


    Thanks! Did not think about the baggie idea.
  18. pvduke Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    ... on the gas...
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tripple-hondo hoosk...
    Other Motorcycles:
    dozens of them, kicked to the curb
    Orange Oil- active ingredient in most bio-cleaners.

    Problem is it is no longer bio freindly when the filter-oil mixes in, or soap is used.
    Water kills the sovlent action, so I use really soapy, warm water to rinse. (when I used that stuff, which I dont no more)

    Most makers say use a sovlent or petrol.
    I can clean 3 filters in the same amount of unleaded gas in less of a mess than one with that bio-stuff, and, w/o as much wear and tear to the filter.
    Yeh- there's some hydocarbons escaping, please don't get me started.
    It's still less of a dent in the earth, esp when it's recycled with waste oil.

    Never 'wring' a filter- always knead gently, really gently.

    YMMV.

    :busted:
  19. razornpc Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    iowa
    i like no toil for the simple reason that its so easy to clean.

    i use the no toil oil and greese. i used up all the no toil cleaner and now i just use oxi clean. im told you can put it all in the washing machine, but i just take atub of hot water and hand rinse. you can dump it down the sink and you done. let it dry and work in your new oil, apply greese and ride baby!

    also no fumes like the pj1 stuff, which coul be good or bad depending upon your tastes...
  20. highdez1981430cr Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley,Ca.
    ultimate filter cleaning and oiling

    1- dip in mineral spirits to remove oil residue
    2- Dawn dish soap to remove leftover oil and dirt
    3-24 hour dry and then saturate in twin air oil and wick with paper towels.
    maximus odimous dirt keep um out um us stuff.

    This is how i do it anyway.:cheers: