1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

125-200cc Putting motor back together in a hurry= melting down motor in a hurry

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by Phil M., Nov 15, 2013.

  1. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    well I forgot to put the inner O ring in the head after taking the motor all the way down to change the kick start spring, which lead to a melted down motor 2 miles down the trail. So just all understand each other the head actually melted down the cylinder wall. So its time to do a rebuild and that means More power I'm getting the race head from husky for my WR300 (or I'm going to try) and I its time for a new pipe, but from there I'm not really sure where to go. Any woods/ extreme enduro guys got any ideas or advise?
  2. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    make sure you install the o-ring next time :banana:
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  3. msmith345 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Shawnee, KS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '12 WR250, '92 360, '80 390
    Other Motorcycles:
    '72 Yamaha R5, '17 SV650
    Where abouts are you at? The 300 makes pretty good power stock. For technical woods riding around Missouri, Arkansas, and Oklahoma the suspension would be the biggest bang for your buck. Adding power, and smoothing things out at the same time, the 38mm Lectron is amazing. It adds a lot of range to the RPMs and is overall just a pleasure. For the pipe, really the stocker is my favorite. Good low end with it, and the pipe fixes well when smashed and with some BBQ paint, it looks new again. The Pro Circuit pipe is ok. Nothing spectacular, but it does give a nice boost in mid and high. The DEP pipe is a beast, but only if you want to ride it hard on the pipe. Since you asked about extreme enduros, the stocker would be my choice with a Leo Vince silencer.

    I'm actually surprised it started without the o-ring in place. I'd assume it would waterlock with coolant. Or at least leak enough to spoil the combustion.
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  4. Aviduser Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 cr 165
    Wouldn't it have smoked like a bastard?

    That sucks.
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  5. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    Oh yeah I'll never forget the o ring again. Yep it smoked that morning but it was one of the damp rainy foggy mornings where your mouth looked like it was running 15 :1. And when we left the truck that morning we were riding like we all had something to prove. The 300 has plenty of power stock no question about that. But I'm looking for more snap on the low end for Rock ledges and pivot turns.
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  6. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    after my attempt at humor, there were two good questions posted, how would it have started as the coolant would have leaked into the top end, and it must have really smoked
    my thinking is there is a possibility that the o-ring was not there, but,,,, not likely, if it sealed well enough without the o-ring to get started and you consumed all your coolant in 1 mile and melted on the second mile there would have been serious power loss at least on the first as coolant is not flammable so it would act as a quenching problem, also if the head was hot enough to melt maybe the o-ring was consumed due to it's proximity of the combustion chamber, when you finally stopped was there a lot of steam involved? the reason I ask is it might be something else, is it possible you had a water pump failure, possibly due to being in a hurry you broke something there
    regardless you will find it, let us know, oh by the way would like to see a pic of the melted head
  7. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    just thought of another coolant scenario, did you look to see if it ended up in the gearbox
  8. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    Well after I put the motor back together I started in my garage with no coolent which in guessing allow the head to seat in. Then once at Chadwick I added coolent. The bike did smoke a lot but I thought it was due to the weather. There was a huge loss of power right before she laid down. The spark plug was glowing white when I pulled it out on the trail. We pulled the head off trail side and no inner o ring. The crank case oil is a nice coffee cream brown. I'm taking back all the way Down again and taking my time with parts diagram and a highlighter
  9. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    As far as the o ring melting.... That may of happened being that I couldn't find the o ring in my garage.
  10. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    coffee cream brown? does that mean you found the coolant in there?
    the loss of power is often a seizure, do you have piston marks that reflect this
  11. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    Yes there was coolent crank case oil. I'll have to post pictures of the head and cylinder. But you guys have me thinking now ill defiantly check the water pump anything else you guys can think of
  12. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    if there was coolant in the gear oil you have a water pump seal issue or a damaged part there
  13. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    I'm going to go over the motor with a fine tooth comb this go around. I have no complaints out of the bike though I've road that thing hard for 2 years and other that normal maintenance I haven't had to spend a dime or turn a wrench on it. still need advise on the engine mods though. The big plan for the year is to quantify for the Tennessee Knock out race on Sunday. I've got my suspension set up about perfect (for me), so I would say I'm alright there. I figure why I'v got the motor and my wallet open I would go bigger and better.
  14. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    here is a list of the parts I have to replace (as of now) if this helps

    Head
    Cylinder (re-coated)
    Piston and rings
    Pipe (Its banged in bent and a pain to put back on)
    Radiators (same as pipe)
  15. K5PL5 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Palmyra, PA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    03 Suzuki SV1000/73 Honda CB350
    :lol:
  16. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many

    Or crank seal.

    - Also I don't think your inner o-ring disappeared it was never installed.
  17. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    I'm with you. I'm pretty sure I forgot it or it fell off or whatever the case may be. I'm guessing if I go digging around under my work bench I would find it.
  18. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many

    Shit happens. Buddy put a cylinder on without the stud collars that locate the cylinder once, that did not end well ether. Missing piston pin clip, yep seen that.
  19. justpinit Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Maryland
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 wr 300
    Other Motorcycles:
    93 kx 125 with a kdx 200 engine.
    Deffinately replace all seals, when the engine gets that hot it can wreck havoc on seals even if it doesn't look like it!
  20. Phil M. Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    southern Missouri
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    77 RM125
    hey that's good advise i defiantly will replace all of them