Rear Sprocket Carrier Bearing Failure

Discussion in 'TR650' started by glitch_oz, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. glitch_oz Husqvarna
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    Location:
    AUS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada
    Slowly getting a complete set of BMW GS wheels together for the Strada (where'd I be without Ebay and PayPal??), I wanted to make things as easy as possible for a quick and clean swap without unbolting bits off one wheel-set to use on the other.

    The last bit missing was a rear sprocket carrier and we've all heard the stories and seen the pics of shredded bearings, ground to mush on a Sunday ride.


    The carrier is from an '06 GS Dakar with under 20.000km on the clock.
    The part shows a different manufacturer (TOMOS is a Slovenian mob making parts for BMW amongst other things), but the same part number as the Husky unit.


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    Inside surfaces showing friction-wear, indicating worn cush-rubbers helped along by a sloppy outer bearing, allowing too much free-play and "sprocket-skewing" during acceleration.

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    SKF-Explorers made in France aren't too bad....but there's a reason BMW stipulates new bearings+cush rubbers to be installed as a set on the F+G singles!!


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    Standard BMW F/G-series stack of 30x40x7mm seal----6204 bearing----spacer+ C-clip-----6204 bearing



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    You guessed it...the outer bearing after the seal's removed...yuck!!



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    One out...one to go. No surprise this thing was on the way out....


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    Let's start with some fresh stuff then...off to the bearing-shop on Monday for some
    better stuff.
    Anyone got a decent source for the 3 cush drive rubbers?




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  2. drzcharlie Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Glitch et al,

    I've got a question. Admittedly, I have never removed bearings good or bad from moto wheels. Since these are held in place by cir-clips is it still necessary to drive them out afthe cir-clip is removed. Additionally, I am wondering what exact bearings you would use on the stock wheels.

    Our interchange list shows (rear wheel): 2-SKD 6203 & 2-SKD #6204 presumably inside and outside bearings? Also, 2-30 X 40 X 7 MM bearing seals. First is this accurate? I have replaced other bearings but not sure about removal and replacement on these wheels.

    Thanks all, for helping out old geezer.
  3. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    One question for the bearing experts. What is the best or easiest bearing puller to use?
  4. duibhceK Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Chapel of the Well, Belgium
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TRX850; WR450F; XT660Z Tenere
    2x 6203 for the wheel 2x 6204 for the sprocket carrier

    Whichever one you choose, you'll be cursing :)
    I used a set like this:
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    But this type will work just as well:
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  5. glitch_oz Husqvarna
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    Location:
    AUS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada


    Hi Charlie

    In the sprocket carrier, the inner (towards the hub) bearing is just a straight tap-out job. Initially I used a small tire-iron with a bent tip to gain purchase on the edge of the inner bearing race.
    A couple of good, solid taps, turn 180deg, another few taps, swap tyre-iron for an old, sharp-bladed screwdriver...keep tapping and turning until the bearing drops out.
    That exposes an alum spacer ring and the C-clip. The spacer is loose, the C-slip needs to be removed in order to knock out the swingarm-side bearing. And yes, it also has to be tapped out through the double-depth seat after removal of the first bearing.


    Both front and rear wheels of ALL TR's (and suitable F+G series BMW wheels) use a pair of 6203 each....the sprocket carrier uses a pair of 6204 (same for any suitable F+G series BMW parts).
    ALL TR's (and suitable F+G series BMW wheels) use a single 25x40x7mm seal at the front....and a 30x40x7mm seal at the rear wheel, as well as another one of the same dimensions in the sprocket carrier.

    A complete shopping list for wheelbearings and seals incl. the sprocket carrier for ANY TR looks like this:

    4x 6203
    2x 6204
    1x seal 25x40x7
    2x seal 30x40x7


    And thankfully none of it is proprietary stuff, all are bog-standard generic parts used in millions of applications from washing machines to golf-carts and available from any bearing-shop on the planet.
    PaulC, DeLewis and engineerk9 like this.
  6. glitch_oz Husqvarna
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    Location:
    AUS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada
    :applause::applause::D
  7. MotocycleWriter Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North Alabama
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650, TE 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW R1150RT, BMW R100GS
    I just picked up a set of real nice Strada wheels. I bet I should put in some decent bearings before I mount them...
  8. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    When I renewed my bearings I used better quality Niachi, I removed the inner seal from each then filled the void space between the bearings with grease, the intention being to extend bearing life
  9. drzcharlie Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Thanks guys. When I got the wheels off I was pleased to find that the bearings are in great shape. I just packed them as best I could and put new seals back in. But, I now have the bearings I need to replace them if necessary.