I took both bikes out this weekend....mostly because I could not decide which one I wanted to ride. This is the first time I have jumped from bike to bike. Some really interesting things happened. The first day I rode the TC250 most of the day, then pulled out the WR125 to play around on. I took the WR onto the vintage track at Hollister Hills. No jumps, but a lot of turns, with ruts and a long straight. The first thing I noticed is how crappy the stock Marz are compared to the KYBs. The bars were rattling out of my hands over chop and braking bumps. I do not even notice this stuff on the TC. I am sure some of this is due to the low weight of the WR. I really had to slow down on fast sections because of the forks. The second thing I noticed is how much fun it is to try and ride the WR fast. It is fun zinging out on the track with big bore 4 strokes and passing or keeping up with these guys. I had at least 4 guys wave me by after riding their tail for a couple of laps. On the other hand, several guys came on the track to give me a run for my money. It is a lot of work riding the little bike fast, but does it handle. You can cut inside anytime you want and get a surprising amount of drive off corners with a bit of clutch...when the track is tacky. When the track is dry/hard pack things are a bit trickier. The third thing I noticed, probably the most obvious, is that the TC is a rocket compared to the WR. The TC is so much faster everywhere. The fourth thing I noticed, is that you surprisingly have to ride each bike pretty much the same. Both like to be rev'd and clutched. So, it does not take much adjustment from bike to bike. So, the next time I ride, what will I put in the truck? I will probably put the TC in the truck. On the other hand, on Sunday I rode the WR all day and left the TC in the truck. Who knows? I am just glad to have this horrible problem of deciding which great bike to ride. JS
I can't wait for your review of the new 449. One of the mags said it had plenty of power. It seems a bit heavy for an MX bike, but for an enduro??? JS
The first thing I noticed is how crappy the stock Marz are compared to the KYBs. The bars were rattling out of my hands over chop and braking bumps. I do not even notice this stuff on the TC. I am sure some of this is due to the low weight of the WR. I really had to slow down on fast sections because of the forks. Get your forks dialed in and you will change your mind.Why do you think most if not all of the Factory Husky Racers run the Marz. My 125 handles like a works bike .I tryed to race my WR 250 in stock trim a few times and i even finished last Then i had Zip Ty Racing do a rebuild per Peadros factory setting and the first race out i won Completly different bike now to ride .This weeken is another National where i will race the 250 again .Well worth the time and money to get your bike to handle the best it can
I agree with you. The best thing to do is get the forks dialed in, everyone here seems to really like them after getting a re-valve. The thing I did not mention is the WR is my wife's bike. She says she likes the forks just fine, go figure. If we did revalve them, it would be to her specs....and still would not suit my style. Oh well. Maybe she will want a new bike soon so I can set up the WR for me, JS
I've owned 4 Huskys with Zokes and 2 Huskys with KYB's. IMHO, there's absolutely no debate. The KYB's are VASTLY superior out of the box. When I rode our '10 TC 250 for the first time, the difference was obvious within the first few minutes. Prior to that, I kept making excuses to convince myself the Zokes were wonderful. They aren't.
I love the TC Zokes on my WR144/167. Les made them perfect for me. They just make everything disappear.
I'm in full agreement with you on this one. The Zokes can be made to work well with mods, but they still do not have the potential of any of the other brands of forks on the market. IMO anyway.
well its good to see someone has a major dilemma each weekend. Seriously though,good feed back. I have the zokes twin cartridge on my 2010 TE 310, feel they are just spot on. Only change is heavier springs.
interesting point. most all coil/hydraulic telescoping forks work on the same principal and same have equal potential. unless there is a glaring defect in one type over another, the tuner of said fork can make them damp anyway the rider wants, to a degree. how well it turns out depends on the tuner, customer feedback and the experience of both. intended use plays a part too. but, it really boils down to nothing more than fluid being pushed past a restriction.