Hello, I just bought a Scottoiler V-System, and was wondering if anyone has fitted it to the TR 650 and could advise the best way to do so. I contacted Scottoiler direct and they mentioned they have not done this to a TR 650 yet. Thanks
Actually, it is quite straightforward, the bike has a vacuum tube which is easily accessible on the front right side, the pump can be attached to the front left. I'll post some photos in a couple of days. All you will need is a 6mm grommet to connect to the vacuum tube, Scottoiler supply this free of charge - their customer service is excellent (the standard grommet is 4mm).
Whilst I am familiar with the Scottoiler being used on road bikes, what about when the bike is used on dusty/muddy roads?
It works ok even in dusty conditions if you use a very light oil, so light that it just washes the chain and doesn't really adhere to it. I wouldn't have thought so myself, but I hired an XT660R in New Zealand a couple of months ago which had a scottoiler fitted, and even in dusty conditions the chain remained quite clean and didn't end up caked with oily dirt.
Chain stays clean...but where does the oily dirt end up??? I remember lubing my chain on other bikes and not letting it dry. Man you rear fender and pipes sure pay the price for oil and dirt sticking to it.
Yep, that's the the price of a clean chain. Use a light enough oil it shouldn't stick too much to anything.
I have some concerns about using it with sand and mud. Most of my riding is on road, with a little bit on gravel tracks, so for me it works. For road riding it seems a no-brainer.
Hi Chris, I did install it, but it is not working yet because I need to add the Universal Spigot to the Inlet Manifold, rather than adding a connector to the vacuum pipe, which is a much simpler process. I will be making an appointment with my dealer to do this soon. Scottoiler customer service have been extremely helpful sending the required parts at short notice. I had some email exchange with their people in Scotland and we agreed I'd make sure it worked perfectly before posting any pictures, and agreed to let them review the installation before posting because they have put one on a TR650 yet. The main reason I have decided to put a Scottoiler on is because I do 3-5 day excursions, clocking up 2000-3000km trips the Scottoiler makes maintenance much easier particularly in the absence of a centre stand. To be honest if I didn't do such excursions I probably wouldn't have put one on, especially as getting to the Inlet Manifold is quick a long job, my dealer thinks the total job could take some time. Will keep you informed.
Thanks JupBa. I had one on my zrx1100, and I loved it. I've been using chain wax on my wr250, but I don't like the sticky goo it leaves on the rim and swing arm. Might just be my imagination, but I prefer the constant lubrication that the scottoiler gives. I know they have an electric version, that doesn't need manifold vacuum, did the folks at scottoiler recommend that one instead of the V model? Thanks again. --Chris
Chris Check out the Scottoiler web site, all the info you need is there under bmw 650. My mate and his wife are on their way to Alaska from Argentina and have covered 16000 miles on their bm 650s fitted with Scottoilers. They have adjusted the chains twice and are still ok. Without the Scottoilers no way would you get that mileage. I'm converted and fitting one to my Terra. Check out his blog @ Gino's Travels Scotty
Chris There are no vacuum pipes on the Terra, its all incorporated into the top of the throttle body. I've just managed to get the manifold off after a couple of hours, seat, side panels, radiator side panels, exhausts off then top and bottom sub frame bolts out, lower the sub frame. This allows you to take out the airbox screw which is hidden by the petrol tank. There is enough room to wiggle the top of the airbox up by pulling up the tank. You can then slacken the top clip and take off the two bolts that hold the manifold to the head. Now to drill and tap it and put it all back together, I hope its worth it ! Scotty
Scotty: Looking at advrider, highfive found a vacuum line going to the charcoal canister mounted behind the radiator. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20579601&postcount=199 I think it should be pretty easy to splice into that.
Hi Chris I'm from the other side of the pond (the police state of Scotland) but we don't have all that emissions control nonsense here yet. If I had a vac pipe on mine I would deffo use it, getting to the manifold is too much of a pain. Scotty
Hi Chris, still haven't done it. The Husky dealer here is reluctant to do it so I have good to a Yamaha dealer around the corner from where I live. I'll update photos when all is finished...thanks Scotty for your message, does it work ok now?
When you had the exhaust off....how did the inside of the head pipe look at the point where it mounts to the motor? Any large booger welds inside there to limit flow?
All I can say is Scott oilers are the best thing going, not because I'm from Scot heritage but because it works. I put a oiler system on my KLX650 with new sunstar and DID rigging and road 25,000km, road, mud, swamp and sold the bike. The chain and sprockets were still in very good condition when sold and still safetied. The chain oiler cleans your chain. The only issue is that you need to be contious of conditions and adjust accordingly. I:E rain, dry, swamp... Cheers
Took the bike to the dealer today. Just received a call, they confirm what Scotty said and have indicated 4-5 hours labour to do the work. This makes the Scottoiler an expensive option. If I had known what I know now I wouldn't have bought one. So my advice is "DON'T BUY ONE" unless you have a lot of money and are just interested in the convenience factor.
