SMR570 wheels fit TE610?

Discussion in '610/630' started by Karu, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. Karu Husqvarna

    Dear ladies and gentlemen,

    The question is deivilishly simple that I have up until now been trying to answer based on infrormation gathered from secondary and other sources available to me.

    Will the 2002 SMR570 wheels easily fit a fuel-injected 2008 TE610?

    My own guess is no, they won't. The front spindle measures 19,5mm and rear 20mm. From what I gather, I should be looking for 25mm axles front and rear. The framework is a supermoto conversion starting from the wheels.

    I would appreciate any useful comments, suggestions or feedback on this matter.

    Cheers!
  2. J.R. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Northern Utah
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    450 Supermoto! and a BUNCH 'O parts
    You should be able to swap them on without much problem! I did something similar to this. I used an older front hub when I was building a 16.5" supermoto wheel.
    You'll need a bearing/seal kit for the front hub, and you might need some spacers. Are you handy with measuring calipers? They will be really useful for this. You'll also need access to a lathe, or a friend/shop to machine them for you. When I did mine, The bearings were slightly different widths on one side so I ended up needing a spacer on that side (3 or 4mm if I remember right) that went in the hub before the bearing. But thats all it needed other than the bearings/seals from the newer bike. In my case the wheel was mounting to a pair of 50mm Marzocchi fork's on my 450.
    The rear should bolt up. Do you have the wheels in hand? The rear wheel for all the 2002 single cams show use of a 25mm axle/spindle. As does 2001. If for some reason it does not work, you should be able to swap bearings for an effective swap. This normally isnt a viable option on a lot of brands (custom or otherwise hard to find bearings needed), but husky seems to be great at keeping things easy to swap with little or no trouble.
  3. Karu Husqvarna

    Thank you J.R.!

    Thing is I do not want to overcomplicate things and that is the first priority. The second is the budget - and sometimes they are linked to each other. Recently my life has taken its turns and I do not have many tools on hand. This why I am looking for a swap that would be fool-proof. Likely I can get a hold of bearings/seals without issues.

    I recognise your remark - that is why I was very surprised when the shop that was offering the 2002 SMR570 wheels sent me an e-mail with measurements that the spindle measures were 19,5mm front and rear 20mm rear. That may be an issue if my TE610 axles are both 25mm , or else the shop must have made an error in measurements.

    Hope somebody can give a second opinion, whether the described spindle measures (19,5mm front and rear 20mm rear) should normally be expected in the case of 2002 SMR570? Would this render the conversion very cumbersome (time+money) or would the bearings be enough to do the job?

    Opinions welcome :)
  4. J.R. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Northern Utah
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    450 Supermoto! and a BUNCH 'O parts
    If you can buy a set of measuring calipers at your local auto parts store, they will be handy for working on the bike. Not only in this case for measuring wheel offsets etc, but also things like shims.

    I dont see any bike in the parts fiche' that have a 20mm rear axle.. I will keep looking when I get a chance. But if it a husky hub, then I would be willing to bet a simple swap to newer bearings with the bigger 25mm ID will do the trick.
  5. Karu Husqvarna

    Thanks again, mate :)
    I will go looking for good quality measuring calipers as soon as I can. Don't worry about the awkward axle size rims, as this might be a weird one-off that was offered me.
    On flea-bay there I finally found an auction for the right (read: straight-bolt-on 25mm) axle size 17'' SMR wheels 3.50 front and 5.00 inch rear.

    Looking to bid, however is anyone aware of how much clearence that leaves, and whether chain rub might be an issue in a standard TE610 swingarm? I have heard that people run 5.00 inch rears rims on their SM and TE 610 models, but I am not aware what modifications that has required - and indeed if they run 150 or 160 width tyres. Have been browsing places like cafehusky, supermotojunkie, thumpertalk and the likes without much success.

    Should one be wary of chain rub in case of 5.00 inch rear tyres in a standard 2008 TE610, and look for specific (make/profile) tyres in order to avoid it?

    Many thanks again for feedback!
  6. J.R. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Northern Utah
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    450 Supermoto! and a BUNCH 'O parts
    I know the 450/510's can run a 5" with no problem, even a 5.5" with a little chain rub sometimes depending on the tire. Most people with a 5" are running 160 DOT's or slicks that range from 160-170. (tire manufacturers vary on the actual width vs what they say the width is. Also, seems like most people with 5.5" rears usually stick with the same 160-170 slicks to flatten out the profile for more surface contact (traction gain). As for DOT's Im not sure as most people only go with a 5.5" when they get really competitive in racing.
    I would think your 610 would be able to fit with a 5"/160 combo, as I know some people have, but they never mentioned any major rubbing issues so Im assuming it'll be fine. Worst case scenario, you'll need to buy/make a Chain block to keep the chain from slapping the tire.
    A chain block is a vertical slider, usually made of UHMW, Delrin, etc, and is positioned so the chain cannot move inwards toward the tire. It doesn't push the chain out, as that could cause excess chain wear (and wear on the chain block), it only sits just next to the chain. They are relatively cheap but very effective way of saving your tire and wheel.
    Now keep in mind, if the chain chews off a little rubber it wont pose any performance issues, especially if you aren't racing competitively. But if you are running a particular tire that is more narrow than its actual measurement, the chain could eventually start cutting into your new (and in some cases, very expensive) rim. If you notice the patterned gouges out of some supermoto rear wheels, this is why.

    Hope that helps, glad you found a set of bolt on wheels :thumbsup: