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250-500cc So go Lectron, not PWK?

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by ryboj, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Guys, haven't been doing much riding the last year or two (yes, horrible), but wanted to spend a few bucks and get the '96 360 even more dialed in for next season. I'm growing tired of the Mikuni that's on there now. For the most part it runs fairly well (3k feet), but starting hot can be a sore chore, and I'm just flat over it.

    With that said, jumped on the computer today to look back into getting a carb. Last time I checked into this, all the rage was going over to a PWK. Now, after catching back up on this board, I noticed Lectron all over the place. Missed the boat did I?

    With that said, sounds like I just need to grab a Lectron off Kelly and go from there then huh?

    If this is the ticket, I will def look into doing the same on my '00 TE410, also a jerk to start warm, at times, and my patience is no more for these things, and I believe it uses the same TE610 carb if I'm not mistaken?

    If I can't get easy starting going forward, I am def going to get an elec start bike going forward, I'm too old to be kick starting bikes until I'm out of breath...haha

    Thanks guys....hopefully this makes most sense then?

    FYI 360 has FMF Fatty, stock silencer.
  2. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    i love the lectron as it works great for many reasons. easy and very accurate. but i had my 95 360 starting easily with the stock mikuni before i added the lectron. 2 kicks cold, 1 kick hot for both carbs. sometimes 1st kick cold.
    if you are out of breath you are using the wrong method altogether or there is something wrong with the bike or its tuning...the 360 requires a strong straight back kick but starts quickly.
  3. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    so i guess my point is that you may have the carb out of tune or in need of repair, in that case another carb would help starting. but if there is something else wrong with the bike or your method is lacking the lectron may disappoint in helping starting.
    that being said im very happy with my lectron and will probably set my other bikes with them as well in the future, even my older huskies that are tuned and run well.
  4. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Thanks for the quick reply justin. I can start it in 1-2 kicks cold. Hot was either 1-2 kicks, or 20. lol. I've seen different techniques starting this one. I'm glad your starting procedure worked well, since it's more rewarding to ride it vs start it. And sadly, they don't make that decomp head anymore from Australia that I know of, otherwise would have that for easier starting too. I think one time, one of the shops I visit from time to time mentioned it didn't seem to put out a lot of spark during starting, enough, but not great.

    The bike pulls clean all over, but still is a fact carb...and again, starting hasn't been ideal. Just looking for something that might help me with both starting, easier tuning, more crisp and refined powerband.. and running at multiple elevations without much fuss, etc.
  5. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    I'm open to more suggestions in starting it hot. :)

    Sounds like as long as it starts easy cold, it really isn't a spark issue.... more of a tuning/technique issue on my end.
  6. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    the lectron will help with all of the above, knocks the sharp edge off the very bottom edge of power. (which i welcome) and boosts throttle response everywhere else. lets it rev out harder as well, the external powerjet to adjust the top half of the throttle is very sweet. you just turn a screw instead of swapping main jets.
    it is very hard to get the bike to load up, it really does feel like fuel injection, in a good way. there are also many here that have dealt with the lectron that can help you if you run into issues. i had some problems with my powervalve timing but thats sorted and the bike runs like a very powerful angry 250 up top. will also slow to a crawl in 3rd and slap the chain badly but a large sudden gulp of throttle will have it pull quite a hill smoothly. very easy to dial in.
  7. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    you could perhaps try leaning the airscrew a tad, it may be rich. it would like this when it cold but not so much hot.
    both the mikuni and lectron like the throttle cracked open for me anyway when hot. no throttle/choke on cold.
  8. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Cool, thanks justin. I may pull the trigger on this. The bottom to mid is fairly explosive, tapering off some, with some good pull on top, but not as robust as it could be I imagine. Like mentioned, I'm sure the Lectron could clean it all up nicely. Easy adjustments sounds great. I just don't have tinker time anymore. I just need things to work after initial setup, as in setup, tinker briefly, set it and forget. I don't want a constant headache. Doesn't sound like it would be.

    The bike is ridden nearly 100% of the time in high desert CA, Mojave...open desert, hill climbs, some larger mountain trails etc... but I sure love the way this 360 is the best of both, a 2 stroke at its core, but with some inherent 4 stroke tractor like qualities I love too. The 360 has been of my favorite bikes I have owned. Want to see it further dialed in one day.
  9. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    solid info, on starting, thank you.
  10. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Will mine need a diff throttle cable dealio, or is the stocker ok?
  11. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    mine definitely runs much like a four stroke if you want on bottom and some of the mid, and is quite happy to do that all day. you are right that its a very odd powerband and it makes them hard to jet and tune. was really surprised how different the bike sounded by swapping the carb. much louder intake.
    as a bonus the float bowl no longer rests or rubs on the engine cases as the mikuni does.
  12. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    the lectron will come with a motion pro throttle and cable. other than maybe not being the correct length or something you could probably use the stocker. the mp cable has the adjustable barrel mid cable. i use a magura 314 duo throttle as it has dual throttle cams and is much cheaper than buying the new fancy throttle tamer units that are available Photo382.jpg Photo323.jpg
  13. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Def agree on tuning is harder on this one based on powerband.... louder intake? Very interesting. Yeah, I think the mikuni is super super close to my cases....
  14. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Carb looks super clean on there....thx for sharing.
  15. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Man time zones flat suck lol yup am awake now, +1 on lectron my bikes 360 02 and before would be hellish to start any heat, fowled plugs left right n every 4 hours tried jetting it out got so hacked off i bought a lectron and to be honest should of done that as the first mod!
    Flawless had to lean up the bottom a tad but its far smoother down low and 6th full tilt is warp factor 9 brilliant carb.
    Justintendo hit the nail on the head if its your carb causing issues lectron will sort it.
    If its faulty seals or another issue then it may disguise the issue a bit better but you will still have an issue.

    I used stock cable no problem but a new cable n carb would be sweet.
  16. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Thanks Juice. Gotta love the last of the 360's, nice bike man. Sounds like I know what I need to do then. Has anyone actually not liked their Lectron on a 360 after tuning it to the prescribed method? Be interesting to know that, but either way, from the other posts I have been reading on the smaller cc bikes, there is much love for these there too, esp the mpg increase...when stretching longer rides, kinda cool actually!

    PS: Grab me a Kebab Burger out there in the UK will ya....damn love those things.
  17. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC

    when my 99 went from 1-2 kicks hot to 20 kicks hot it was the ignition
    it was always difficult to start and tune even with the new ignition
    so put the Lectron on from Kelley, love it
    my 93 still has the Mikuni, 1-2 kicks hot or cold, guess the later ones were an issue
    by the way tried a friends PWK on the 99, was not thrilled with it
    the altitude adjusting was the kicker for me, ride from 4500 to 9000
  18. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Very interesting that even with the fresh ignition it was still a bare. Glad to see the carb cured it for you too! When you replaced the ignition, did you replace exactly what you had, and can I ask roughly what you paid and where did you source it, just in case I need to do the same here eventually, since when Ron Bishop had looked over it years ago doing a few things to it, he mentioned spark wasn't exactly strong, but still was starting cold with ease. It was just the hot side. Almost grabbed a super clean '93 the other week out in Los Angeles....just because. They have a stellar look to them I tell ya.
  19. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC

    the hot start was ignition caused, but still a bear to start, when i say 1-2 kicks that was it's good days
    i almost sold it, but the Lectron changed it enough i kept it
    the 92-94 look good, i really have no plan to sell it as i like looking at it
    the ignition was a fluke, found it on fleabay the guy did not know what it was for, they are not readily available as i have looked
  20. ryboj Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    00TE410_01TE570
    Other Motorcycles:
    '03 Polaris Predator, '86 YZ490
    Thanks 2premo. I guess I should start looking for another ignition so I have one on hand when this thing really takes a dump! Yeah, I consider these art too, so easy on the eyes I say.

    Ok, grabbed the Lectron. Kelly mailed me some info pretty much just reiterating these points. I'm sold. We shall see how this ends up! :)

    Appreciate all the help thus far all!
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