1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

Stall, then less compression 86 400XC

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Quimo, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. Quimo Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 XC400
    Other Motorcycles:
    72 Triumph Bonneville 650, 13 YZ450F
    I had the bike out for an afternoon ride in the snow the other day and just as I was coming down the last straight stretch before it was all down hill to the house the bike stalled on me and would not start again. There is a noticeable loss of compression (as measured by how easy it is to kick it over now). I checked the spark plug to make sure it was tight and I took a look into the exhaust and the cylinder and ring look fine from what I can see.

    I am guessing I just need to pull the top-end for a full on inspection but thought I would check here to see if I am missing something obvious.

    Thank you!
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  2. DeathFromAbove My Cat Says AREAR!

    Location:
    North New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    70,71 360 8s 72,74 450 73 360 73 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    66 Triumph Trophy 99 ZRX1100
    RUT-RO!! Chris
  3. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    Check the flywheel key, 1st, then do a compression test, before you rip her all apart.
    I'd pull the pipe off & have a look see in the exhaust port with a light, to see if she broke
    a ring, after the key & compression test.
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  4. hvaloz2 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    fareham
    had that but worse after a very dusty meeting in dorset on my silver streak , finished race .... checking it over later in pits ... no compression at all ???? left it for 10 mins full compression back and good for rest of season . Can only think ring got stuck like in the castrol r days , but i was running on normal 2 t oil 25:1 !
  5. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    put this with his riding in the snow and a good point to check if the ring was gummed and stayed in the land
  6. Quimo Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 XC400
    Other Motorcycles:
    72 Triumph Bonneville 650, 13 YZ450F
    Thanks for the advice so far! It looks like I could have some time to work on the bike tomorrow. What sort of readings should I be getting when I run my compression test?
  7. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    around 150+ psi , the higher the number the better your ring seal
  8. Quimo Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 XC400
    Other Motorcycles:
    72 Triumph Bonneville 650, 13 YZ450F
    EAFFEA64-8982-45B7-9E45-3A2CB3E348AF.jpeg

    Didn’t get a chance to check compression today but I did check the key. Is this what it should look like?
  9. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    the key is fine, but that Motoplat looks a bit dicey
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  10. Chisler Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    British Columbia, Chilliwack River Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 WR 300 Husqvarna
    As 2premo mentioned .... 98CF1597-687A-4AE2-8D79-BFB122E8FA4C.png
  11. DeathFromAbove My Cat Says AREAR!

    Location:
    North New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    70,71 360 8s 72,74 450 73 360 73 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    66 Triumph Trophy 99 ZRX1100
    I freaking hate Moto plats I'm having nothing but trouble with the one on my 500 XC
  12. Quimo Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 XC400
    Other Motorcycles:
    72 Triumph Bonneville 650, 13 YZ450F
    Lucky for me the bike came with some spare ignition parts. I’m guessing though that there is a reason the current ignition was on the bike since none of the other “spare parts” have been very functional.

    I recall seeing some threads on how to test these systems so will give that a go. Are there still folks repairing these units?

    Attached Files:

  13. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC

    did the outer part of the magneto, the flywheel, come with that?
    the two parts should have the same number, the were matched at the factory, then drilled to index timing
  14. Vinskord Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    400 CR
    Vance Smith - https://motoplatrepair.tripod.com/
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  15. Quimo Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 XC400
    Other Motorcycles:
    72 Triumph Bonneville 650, 13 YZ450F
    It did come with the external flywheel and the backing plate, but I don’t see anything that resembles any matching numbers. The flywheel has a six digit number and the only thing I can identify on the other is a “361”, which doesn’t appear on the flywheel anywhere. The plastic is pretty scuffed over though and it’s hard to make out much. I have the ignition that’s on the bike apart and will check that for numbers.

    Thank you Vinskord for the link!

    Thank you for the
  16. Quimo Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 XC400
    Other Motorcycles:
    72 Triumph Bonneville 650, 13 YZ450F
    Did a compression test today and only getting about 60 psi. Nothing looks out of the ordinary from the exhaust port. Will pull the top end and have a look.
  17. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09

    Yes, if you getting only 60PSI, something broke & time to pull it apart.

    I'm betting the piston skirt broke
  18. Quimo Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 XC400
    Other Motorcycles:
    72 Triumph Bonneville 650, 13 YZ450F
    Looks like the cylinder and piston got too comfortable with each other and welded the piston ring in place, hence the lack of compression. It was previously bored over twice (83.5). Looking for advice on whether I should go another bore over or try and find a cylinder that has not been bored and start with that. Any thoughts are appreciated.

    Attached Files:

  19. 86 400 XC Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Calgary
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    75,82,83,2x84,85,3x86,87,88 and 89
    Other Motorcycles:
    more Huskys
    That's pretty rough, get a machine shop to bore it out some and see where it cleans up.
    There is larger pistons, you will end up with, close to a 430.
    I have a pile of cylinders if you like less vibration from a 400, small bore again.
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  20. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    is that aluminum on the cylinder wall or gouges?if aluminum see if it can be removed
    been down this road years ago and my cylinder was usable
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