1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

Starting Big Bores

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Alan Day, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Alan Day Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Carlsbad CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1979 OR390, 1975CR 360, 2004SMR450R
    Other Motorcycles:
    1983 Yamaha XT 200 - modified
    Basic as it is, remember that any two stroke has two compression strokes : one up to fire and one down to compress the mixture in the crank case. Pull the plug, find the firing stroke and note the position of the starting lever. Kick hard just before this point. Your bike will not start on the down stroke.
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  2. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    While what you saying is true, just getting the piston to TDC, then a small bit past & kicking it hard, usually helps start any motor 2 stroke or 4...
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  3. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Yup just break compression, either stroke an boot it like you mean it. On huskys back not down. Like a mule kick.

    Rinse n repeat.
  4. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    correct, but the "back n down" kick maneuver is for the italian section..you dont want to try that one here or your foot comes off the lever
  5. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Lol didn't think KTM made big bores
    I know vintage you've all got bad ignition an rubbish carbs but isn't that half the appeal?
  6. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    not really, alot of the huskies late 70s the the 80s have mikunis vm roundslides which are reliable and easy to tune as any standard carb. i have never really had ignition problems, sometimes they quit working but the old motoplat cdi setups are pretty reliable considering their age. the older huskies had the points setup which were very reliable if you knew how to adjust them.
    my late 70s-80s huskies all start pretty easy, not really harder than anything else anyway. 2 kicks at most usually unless i wreck. the last swedish bikes had a nice alum lever that worked great, so i use that on all of them.
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  7. stormer254 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    More than I dare let her know
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes!
    If only Autos were so easy:cry:
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  8. Rowan Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Christchurch New Zealand
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 430 auto
    My '87 auto is easy to start. As Ruwfo says - take it just a little over TDC, lever back to the top and then kick it 'aggressively' ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM. By taking it all the way to the bottom the engine goes through a second full firing cycle which gets the mixture moving through the engine as well as giving the crank momentum to carry on.
    A local ex-husky mechanic previously told me that the 'stab' technique is no good - I must use the 'full swing through' style.

    It works well for me.
  9. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Flipping stabbing the kicker will just end up sending your knee into the bars on most bikes.
  10. Four Digit Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1975 250 WR 1986 500 xc
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    OK..here's my2 cents!! My LC 86-500 has been a real test of patience and I now believe I have the bike to the point that it starts well....that is most of the time. It has been at times and continues to be a finicky starter. Knowing that I have a sound motor with good ignition my starting procedure is based upon properly priming that big cylinder. So, It is fuel on, choke on than then 5 fairly slow "priming" kicks. Actually just moving the kicker through the kicking cycle. Then, from slightly pass TDC the motor will usually fire on the 1st or 2nd real hard kick. If it fires then I consider it a GREAT DAY!!
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  11. Eric The Leg Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Currently Tacoma, WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 WR400, 1985 WRX400, 1979 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 Kawasaki KZ 440
    PO had pushed up the timing a little compared to factory spec on my 86 400. I'm not sure how many left shoes got tossed with a hole through the sole before I realized I could just delay the timing a little (y'know, like to factory). Yes, the same bonehead who couldn't figure out to set the stator back to factory would sometimes take an after-school ride in street shoes. Ah, growing up in the country, unsupervised more often than not....
  12. Jeff B Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1975wr 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    yamaha ty 175,
    I use the same method as Four Digit. My scooter fires usually 2nd kick cold. I modify my starting a little bit. If you have a Mikuni, it does not have a choke, it has an enrichment circuit. If you open the throttle, you don't get as much bang for the kick. (it pulls too much air not fuel).. With the throttle closed and holding the kill button, and Mikuni enrichment lever down (you don't want to burn any of that fuel) kick it as hard as you want to 5-6 times. Big bores need a LOT of fuel. With a Bing, flood the snot out of it. Hold kill button down and kick. Flood again, give it a shot. You can also lay the bike on its side till fuel drips out, and try that. And last.. move the kicker to see where it engages. You might be able to remove the kicker and get another spline or two. My husky did not engage until the lever was level with the ground. Jeff
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  13. Andy clark Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1997 te610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Suzuki gsxr1000 k6 honda c90
    My left kick 610 starts easy. It still has the delorto carb all rebuilt and set up. I push the kick start lever till it go's hard that's it at tdc pull the de comp lever go a little over tdc. Then return the kicker start to rest and kick it hard. Bang normally starts 2nd or 3rd kick from cold.
    My 2004 te510 which it right side kick I can't get on with so don't bother and use the button
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  14. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    my 85 510 is similar but the carb is worn (needle) and I think that helps. it can be a pain when warm if you don't get a good kick first up. usually have to decomp clear to get action.
  15. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    exactly the same method I use to start my 500's and 430's
    1st kick every time


    they made 440's 495's 500's and even a 550
    my brothers have had them
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  16. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    A compression release helps.
  17. troy deck Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Republic MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 250wr 12 cr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kx65 ty80 rm80 kdx250
    540DXC LATE 80s early 90s AND A 390 WR IN THE LATE 70s EARLY 80s oh and a 400 AND
    420 yea KTM
    was big bore nuts back in the day
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  18. 1982 XC 430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Seattle Wa
    Lets not forget the KTM 380 made up till 2002.....
  19. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    never forget the 380 kato, first ride on one gave me a fabulous "over the bars" trip after I thought I would give it a "squirt"
  20. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Pmsl ok I'm not clued up on KTM history.. so why have most manufacturers given up on big bore two smokers?