TE/TC te300 suspension

So like many others I am hating on my husky suspension. I'm a bigger guy, about 325 with gear. I'm looking at rg3 and wer because both are local and I am able to bring the bike to them. Anybody have any experience with either? Any advise?

I would call Drew at WER and talk to him. He has done several bikes for me and I have always been happy with his work. He is a very easy guy to talk to, knowledgeable, and wont try and persuade you either way. I havnt brought my '15 TE300 stuff to him yet but hopefully this winter I will have the money to. The 4CS sucks period. I temporarily made some changes to last the rest of the season along with a re-spring and not get beat up too bad but I plan on bringing them to Drew at some point along with the shock. I can not comment on RG3. I have never used them. Good luck.

I wouldn't worry about bringing your bike to a local shop. Removing the suspension is very easy and shipping to someone who knows the 4CS forks would be you're best bet. Kreft, MX-Tech, ZipTy, etc. Maybe WER can install the 4CS upgrade parts made by MX-Tech like Kreft and many others do?

It's just easier for me to drop the bike off to a place. It's hard for me to find wrenching time. I would not bring it to a no name place but I think both rg3 and wer are both respectable places

I am a big guy also 6-4 and 280, so I understand the suspension thing. I don't know how long you have had your 300, but mine gets better every time I ride it. I've got about 10 hours on it now, and it is way better than it was the first ride. I put the stiffest springs race tech has on it. My 12 300XC was the same. I was ready to send it off, but enduro engineering told me to keep riding it, (with the stiffer springs), and I should be fine. At about 15 hours it was like somebody threw a switch, the suspension broke in and was fine. I have no other bike with the 4CS forks, but my 15 TE 300, but if it follows the WP pattern I will be fine with them. I hope your problem works out, us big guys need love to!

Not sure how many hours I have on it but I have about 400 miles. This is the first brand new bike I bought in a long time and even more important my first 2 stroke bike in like 15 years so I'm really trying to love it.

400 miles should be enough to have broken in the suspension. Did you get the stiffer springs? I know with our weight the stock springs are useless. I am loving mine, but I rode my 12 500XCW today and it is more plush. I think some of it is just different feel from 4t to 2t. I Have a 14 300XCW and it is not as plush as the 500XCW. I hope you get it worked out. It is a great bike. Good luck.

I still have the stock springs. Either this week or next week I think I'm going to bring the bike to have the suspension done. I talked to Paul from rg3 and he sounds like a great guy. He was very helpful. I'm going to call drew from wer on Monday. Just have to see who I feel more comfortable with

Wow ya, at least get the proper springs. With your weight, your riding far down in the travel and the compression will be very harsh. Let us know how you make out. Suspension is $ well spent. Enjoy

I noticed a bit of difference today. I went from 13 to 21 clicks in clockwise. I also had 10 psi in the front and rear instead of 14. Still need to do the suspension though clock ways. I also had 10 psi in the front and rear instead of 14. Still need to do this suspension though

I never tell people how to spend their money, but please get the springs before you spend a lot money on revalving your suspension. It may be needed, but try the cheapest solution first. You may need the revalve because of your weight, stiffer springs may not fix the whole problem. I have been told that I needed suspension revalve because of my weight. The only bike I ever felt that it made a big enough difference to justify the cost was my 1994 KX500 that I race in the historic class, off road.

When I do the suspension I'm going to do the springs and revalve it at the same time. Get it all done in one shot

It seems to me the main issue with the suspension is the standard springs are for fully kitted rider weight of 75 - 85KG.
Most people I ride with are 75 - 95KG with no clothes on, so when fully kitted with riding gear, hydration pack, tools, spares, food etc the gross rider weight is more like 90 - 110KG. Then add 5KG of mud stuck to the bike and rider, then another 1 or 2 KG of water soaked into the rider and in the boots. So the gross weight keeps climbing, and the sag dropping. This probably explains why the 4CS feel like a jackhammer to some riders, as they are riding with way too much sag, and in a harder damping part of the suspension travel.
I cant believe a premium quality suspension manufacturer would make a totally shit product and then be installed on a premium quality bike. Is all this spending vast amounts of money re-valving really neccesary, when maybe just the correct springs for the rider weight will get the suspension sorted?
Well that's the way I see it! Standing by for being shot down in flames!!

I agree with Tetly. Mine is working great with the right springs. Granted I am 60 years old and not that fast, but it is working for me. I followed this program on my KTMs and it has worked as well,

True about the springs and most people who ride dirtbikes accept a bit of fiddling on the suspension to get it correct, mostly springs to adapt to riders weight and maybe some valving to personal preference.
On the premium manufacturer thing, I didn't believe it neither and I kept thinking it was me the crap rider who was at fault.
Then my dealer fitted Terry Hay's system in my forks and it made me from riding shit to pro!
So better believe it my friend, 4CS is an crap product out of the box and a lot of people agree on this! The idea was probably good but then the execution is probably hampered by cost issues as it happens often.
What offends me the most is that the Husky is a fair bit more expensive than the orange variety, this due to the "high quality" suspension components, my a....!

Perhaps the 2016 4CS are sorted? I haven't got round to re springing mine, but find they work fine as they are. They are harder than my old TE450 Kayaba forks, but this bike did have a very plush ride, and bottomed out easily. I did speak to a mate yeaterday who has a 2015 KTM 300XC. He did get his forks revalved, but not re sprung, as he had the problem some have described, which is the forks lock up after 2 or 3 small bumps, ie roots in quick succession. A revalve and less oil sorted it. I haven't noticed any inconsistancies in the way my forks work (yet!)

It seems WP made a fair bit of changes to the valving, I can't speak for it as I haven't tried a 16 model but so far the feedback from new owners is still mixed.

Yep..as a 2016 owner these forks are no better than the 2015. For an average rider who doesn't push themselves or the bike too much the standard fork will work. It also has a lot to do with the terrain ridden. For grass track and fire trails the fork will be ok..but for hard single trail with lots of rocks, breaking bumps and tree roots the fork just doesn't stack up, period. It is disappointing that a new bike cannot be ridden hard straight out of the box …
I'll be getting my re-worked forks and shock back at the end of the week so i'll have a good comparison to go off.

15 years ago I would have been chasing more power, but being a little older and smarter I now want a better handling and stable chassis which leads to safer riding and greater confidence .

To be fair though....

Unless you just happen to be 165 lbs and a B rider most bikes are not set for you.....

You absolutely can not valve and spring a bike for everyone.... WONT HAPPEN

Every single bike I have ever owned had to be revalved and/or resprung

So I just had my first ride on my revalved front and rear and it is a different bike. I opted for the new KREFT setup on the front with a revalve and heavier springs. The rear also received a heavier spring and some valving adjustments .
This bike now sticks like glue to the terrain and tracks so much better. Previously the bike would skip over the bumps and bounce off the rocks and roots. Now there is no harshness at all, it handles rocks and tree roots and doesn't blow through the stroke if you miss time some whoops.
I would definitely recommend Dave at Suspension Matters ( QLD, Australia ) for anyone wanting to transform their 4CS forks into something that is confidence inspiring !