Type of plastic in our fenders?

Discussion in 'TR650' started by broadwayron, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR
    This is a long shot... any chemists out there? I'm looking for something to fix my mangled front fender (Strada) until I receive a new one. But, things like Plastex, PlastAid, JB Weld, etc. have different formulas for the type of plastic. I know nothing of this stuff, but I've seen words like Polypropylene, Polyethylene, and HDPE. Some versions specifically say they won't adhere to some of these materials.
    Any ideas?
  2. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
  3. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR
    Yeah, I emailed them yesterday. I don't expect a reply... or, at least not for a few days.
    Thanks
  4. Motosportz CH Sponsor

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    Vancouver WA
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    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
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    many
    from the interwebs... ATV fenders typically consist of polyethylene (PE) and polypropylene (PP) materials. Polyethylene and polypropylene are considered oily plastic materials, or olefinic plastic materials. This type of plastic allows the dirt and mud to wash off, as well as prevent any paint or adhesives to fuse.
  5. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR

    I saw that, too. I was wondering about the Strada fender, because it broke so easily, it seems like it might be made of something different than my dirtbike (or, ATV?) fenders. (Since it's technically a streetbike.) It doesn't bend much, which is weird for a fender.
  6. rww Husqvarna
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    Kennewick Washington
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    tr650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Cagiva Kaw Zuki Honda
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  7. Motosportz CH Sponsor

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    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
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  8. rww Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Kennewick Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tr650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Cagiva Kaw Zuki Honda
    That may well be true but I have 9 bikes 5 cars 5 trailers and something plastic is always broken....I have even cast parts out of this stuff....has always worked for me
  9. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR
    Haha, I watched the video for Plast-aid, and I bought it. 6 oz for $23 (delivered)... if it doesn't work, I'm sure I'll have other uses for it. Seems like a pretty handy product.
    The fender was about $50 shipped.
  10. rww Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kennewick Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tr650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Cagiva Kaw Zuki Honda
    Yep the stuff really smell's bad but works fast and is super strong
  11. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR
    Plast-Aid won't work... their "test" is putting some liquid on your finger and see if it gets tacky when applied to the plastic. It's doesn't get tacky, so I'm guessing the fender is either Polyethylene or Polypropylene (since they say it won't adhere to those).
    Here's what the fender says, in case anyone cared:
    [IMG]

    Edit: a google search says that PP+20Talc is Polypropylene and 20% talc. So, there you (I) have it.
  12. rww Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kennewick Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tr650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Cagiva Kaw Zuki Honda
    Did you find a glue that will work ??
  13. rww Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kennewick Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tr650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Cagiva Kaw Zuki Honda
    found this at ACE hardware site........
    Loctite® All Plastics Super Glue® (681925)
  14. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR

    Yeah, I used that. It worked like a glue, but didn't "chemically bond" the pieces like I was hoping. It did hold 2 big pieces together for a short ride, but there's a small piece (that the brake cables route through) which I didn't try to glue. I don't think I'll try and find the correct bonding agent, because this seems to be good enough. I may drill some holes and ziptie the pieces if I get bored.
  15. juicypips Husqvarna
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    gloucestershire
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    wr 360. 2002
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    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Soldering iron / blow lamp and some ali mesh heat the mesh untill it can melt into plastic, use iron to melt the knobbles that come through the mesh so its a mess but solid. Tempo fix.
    Or use another sheet of plastic and use polyurethane pu adhesive like tiger seal now that stuff works.
  16. rww Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kennewick Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tr650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Cagiva Kaw Zuki Honda
  17. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    $199 wow great idea but cost outweighs use for me.
  18. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR
    Well, my new fender arrived amazingly fast! So, while installing it, I found yet another lousy Husky design... you need to remove all the rotor bolts to get to one of the fender screws! I keep telling myself that it's a cheap bike, hence the crappy design. But, there are so many instances like this.
    I'm convinced... if Beta made a TR650, it would cost twice as much, but would be built 3 times better.
    /Rant over.
  19. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Take a deep breath, breath out, take a deep breath, breath out...............
  20. broadwayron Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    '10 520RR

    Haha! My post seemed angrier than I was in my garage... I was just thinking, are you serious? How am I supposed to get to that screw?