Seems the mass centralization is in full swing. BWM does a lot of under the seat fuel tanks. My TE511 uses this tech as well as my AJP bikes. I personally feel this is a step forward. The weight is lower and the side benefit is the air filters are higher and away from the rear wheel churning dust up into it and seem to say cleaner far longer. The new Yamahas also employ a mostly under seat tank and top airbox. TM has just showed off their works race bikes and they are doing this now... My TE511 and AJP both employing this design. Might be something we see more and more. Cool to see some different approaches instead of another CRF copy bike. Honda is using dual exhaust and shorter mufflers to centralize, Yamaha is using reversed motors and under seat tanks, Berg had the 70 degree motor thing now these lower tanks are showing up in several bikes. I personally think there is an advantage to this setup. Would like to see what it would do to a 2 stroke. Interesting stuff.
It's more than just keeping the weight down low. By placing the air filter up top, air can be directed straight down into the cylinder at a higher efficiency.
Not quite fully under the seat, but close. I think if I were to go Japanese, I would buy one of these.
See MZ, told you the 511 wasn't odd lol. It really is cool to see it on other bikes. Still think your pr5 looks like a mini 511, maybe just throw some old husky graphics on it
Yeah kinda but they work totally different. The 511 is a open dez rocket but a handful in the tight. The AJP is a single track and hill climbing dream come true but feels strained some in the faster stuff. Both I believe benefit from the low placed weight.
I have the 14 yz 450 and its a handful. the seat tank cover thingy is kinda a pain in the ass to take on and off, wish they found a better way to construct it. My buddy just bought a left over 13 yz 450 rode it for the first time and he was amazed at the power these new bikes have. I wouldnt even try to ride this thing in the tight stuff but in the open its a rocket. If you havent thrown a leg over one you really need to. They handle great and for me i dont see the need for maps, pipe or really anything else...graphics kit maybe.
Not me. Ridden plenty KTM 350's Good bikes but not my top choice for single track by a long shot. Great do it all bike though.
I had a YZ450 here for a while testing Lectrons on it. I greatly prefered my 511. My uncorked 511 is also faster which surprised me. The YZF450 would be far better for MX but I do very little of that. Neither I would choose for single track but both will do it if you have to. Stock my 511 was a kitten and manageable in the tight stuff. Uncorked it is a rocket and super fun in the open. Bikes, love them all, just pick the right one for the job and have at it
A while back I was contemplating a retro fit under seat tank on older bikes. Reroute air feed & maximize airbox area for a primary fuel dump tank, with the main tank going into it. Any auxialliary tank would then also feed into the underseat tank. Just dreaming & it would a major undertaking. Small EarthX or similar battery remounted to behind the skid plate etc. Fun to dream
