TE510 - 2009:
I have Ibeat v2 – and wanted to take another crack at using the 02 sensor and closed loop fuel injection in my 2009 TE510.
I set up the TPS with the wide open throttle reading 100.2% - this required an Idle TPS reading of 1011mV – then set the idle air thumbscrew at 2.75 turns out. This is a generally “good” baseline for Powered-Up mode. Bike surged/bucked between shifts and during light roll ons. Did DIY TPS tweak and 1 ½ turns on the idle air screw – surging and bucking 95% reduced, idle approx 1850 rpm.
I purchased 10 gallons of fuel and set it aside for testing (Sunoco 94). Rode approx 200 kms of mixed street/sideroad and hooked up to Ibeat. 02 Long Term Adaptation table read:
100% 100% 100%
111.7% 109.8% 100%
114.1% 118% 100% with idle 115.6%
Using a paint pen and the throttle position readout, I marked 20% / 40% / 70% throttle positions on the handlebar control. This would give me reference points for observations and testing points while riding. I don’t think I spend enough time at 70% throttle for the ECU to populate the matrix – and thus 100% values at max throttle max rpm are not valid. Turning the idle airscrew out lowered the idle % value but the surging/bucking returned. Reset adaptation matrix.
I changed FB1 / FB2 / FB3 values from 100/100/100 to 110/100/100.
Idle compensation value dropped to about 100%. Went for mixed street ride 100+kms. 20% throttle much better, 40% seemed weak, 70% nothing special. Biggest change was in the transition from cruise (slow throttle movements) to power (large quick throttle movements). The transition was much smoother and rolling on the throttle did not go from wheeze to “hang on” as it did before. I turned in the idle screw 1/8th, which gave smooth off idle transition in the city but created a bit of heaviness (rich) on the side roads. (??)
Long Term Adaptation Table:
100% 100% 100%
103.9% 98% 100%
103.9% 100% 100% with idle 100%
Reset table.
Changed FB1/FB2/FB3 to 112/107/105
Went for mixed street ride (same loop) – 40% much better, excellent 70%, bottom end 20% needed more and more airscrew as the ride went along – idle now at 2050 rpm. Actual riding temperature about +6degrees Celsius. Throttle transitions getting very smooth – drifting out of slower turns not such a cheek clenching experience.
100% 100% 100%
100% 96.1% 100%
102% 96.1% 100% idle 102%
Reset values.
Changed FB values to 110/105/105 and airscrew to 1/5/8 turns out – then tweaked to 1/3/4 turn out to have idle compensation to 100%.
When for mixed ride – everything about the same except for idle air screw needing adjustment during ride – more as night continued – then back in city stoplight to stoplight.
100% 100% 100%
100% 100% 100%
103.9% 102% 100% idle 102%
Reset adaptation.
Changed FB to 112/105/105 and covered ½ of both radiators to reduce cooling at higher speeds. Set idle air screw at 1 5/8 turn out for 100% idle compensation at 95 degree Celsius water temperature.
Went for mixed ride. Excellent on all accounts. Airscrew inconsistencies stopped with rads covering up rads. Fuel mileage less than buck n surge factory setup but still much better than tuned “powered up” settings (my bike 92/95/98 idle air bypass 2 ½ turns out with DIY TPS tweak).
This is the best the bike has run in street riding (powered up or not) as far as best compromise between smoothness / throttle response and overall power. All my testing was done at night with variable amounts of fog and wetness on the road plus temps in the single digits (Celcius). Good economy during cruise – good power when whipped.
This weekend I plan to change the gearing back to either 13/50 or 14/50, take the rad covers off and slop around on some tight single (02 sensor in). I will be surprised if it’s best vs Powered-up – but worth a try anyways.
The long term adaptation table is an excellent tool to help set FB1/2/3 for improved ridability and performance with the 02 sensor is in place.
MAT
I have Ibeat v2 – and wanted to take another crack at using the 02 sensor and closed loop fuel injection in my 2009 TE510.
I set up the TPS with the wide open throttle reading 100.2% - this required an Idle TPS reading of 1011mV – then set the idle air thumbscrew at 2.75 turns out. This is a generally “good” baseline for Powered-Up mode. Bike surged/bucked between shifts and during light roll ons. Did DIY TPS tweak and 1 ½ turns on the idle air screw – surging and bucking 95% reduced, idle approx 1850 rpm.
I purchased 10 gallons of fuel and set it aside for testing (Sunoco 94). Rode approx 200 kms of mixed street/sideroad and hooked up to Ibeat. 02 Long Term Adaptation table read:
100% 100% 100%
111.7% 109.8% 100%
114.1% 118% 100% with idle 115.6%
Using a paint pen and the throttle position readout, I marked 20% / 40% / 70% throttle positions on the handlebar control. This would give me reference points for observations and testing points while riding. I don’t think I spend enough time at 70% throttle for the ECU to populate the matrix – and thus 100% values at max throttle max rpm are not valid. Turning the idle airscrew out lowered the idle % value but the surging/bucking returned. Reset adaptation matrix.
I changed FB1 / FB2 / FB3 values from 100/100/100 to 110/100/100.
Idle compensation value dropped to about 100%. Went for mixed street ride 100+kms. 20% throttle much better, 40% seemed weak, 70% nothing special. Biggest change was in the transition from cruise (slow throttle movements) to power (large quick throttle movements). The transition was much smoother and rolling on the throttle did not go from wheeze to “hang on” as it did before. I turned in the idle screw 1/8th, which gave smooth off idle transition in the city but created a bit of heaviness (rich) on the side roads. (??)
Long Term Adaptation Table:
100% 100% 100%
103.9% 98% 100%
103.9% 100% 100% with idle 100%
Reset table.
Changed FB1/FB2/FB3 to 112/107/105
Went for mixed street ride (same loop) – 40% much better, excellent 70%, bottom end 20% needed more and more airscrew as the ride went along – idle now at 2050 rpm. Actual riding temperature about +6degrees Celsius. Throttle transitions getting very smooth – drifting out of slower turns not such a cheek clenching experience.
100% 100% 100%
100% 96.1% 100%
102% 96.1% 100% idle 102%
Reset values.
Changed FB values to 110/105/105 and airscrew to 1/5/8 turns out – then tweaked to 1/3/4 turn out to have idle compensation to 100%.
When for mixed ride – everything about the same except for idle air screw needing adjustment during ride – more as night continued – then back in city stoplight to stoplight.
100% 100% 100%
100% 100% 100%
103.9% 102% 100% idle 102%
Reset adaptation.
Changed FB to 112/105/105 and covered ½ of both radiators to reduce cooling at higher speeds. Set idle air screw at 1 5/8 turn out for 100% idle compensation at 95 degree Celsius water temperature.
Went for mixed ride. Excellent on all accounts. Airscrew inconsistencies stopped with rads covering up rads. Fuel mileage less than buck n surge factory setup but still much better than tuned “powered up” settings (my bike 92/95/98 idle air bypass 2 ½ turns out with DIY TPS tweak).
This is the best the bike has run in street riding (powered up or not) as far as best compromise between smoothness / throttle response and overall power. All my testing was done at night with variable amounts of fog and wetness on the road plus temps in the single digits (Celcius). Good economy during cruise – good power when whipped.
This weekend I plan to change the gearing back to either 13/50 or 14/50, take the rad covers off and slop around on some tight single (02 sensor in). I will be surprised if it’s best vs Powered-up – but worth a try anyways.
The long term adaptation table is an excellent tool to help set FB1/2/3 for improved ridability and performance with the 02 sensor is in place.
MAT