1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

250-500cc WR 250 or 300 or neither?

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by Tommy V, May 12, 2014.

  1. Tommy V Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2002 WB165
    Other Motorcycles:
    GasGas TXT280 trials
    After realizing my '02 WB165 was a bit outgunned in the open sections of the recent Delaware Enduro I am seriously considering getting a second bike and I keep wondering about the WR300. My 165 is, by far, the best bike I have ever ridden (for me that is). In the tight, rocky, nasty trails i normally ride the 165 is perfect, but I also ride sand during the winter as well as some more open enduros and the occasional dual sport.
    I recently had a YZ250 that i spent over a year and lots of $$$ trying to set up but in the end I was never quite satisfied with it. It had a Rekluse Z-start, 16oz flywheel weight, and other mods to tame it a bit but the power was never smooth enough for extreme enduro type trails. The biggest issue I had with it was the ergos, it felt small to me, but I am 6'2". I run Fastway pegs in the low setting and CR high bend bars on my 165 and it feels great standing up ( tall seat too)

    My questions regarding the WR300 are as follows;
    1-How do the ergos compare to the older wr/cr 125 chassis?
    2-Does the newer wr300 handle better/worse/same as older wr250?
    3-Assuming I install a Lectron carb, can the power be as smooth or better than a new KTM300?
    4-How does the weight feel compared to other 250/300s?
    5-how is ground clearance? I run low pegs for leg room and it was scary on my YZ but great on 165

    I would love to find an 02-04 wr250 so my plastic, etc.. would be interchangeable but I just saw a new '13 wr300 for sale in my area for $4999. Very hard to pass up a deal like that with other new bikes going for over $8K
    I have read about starting issues but it seems that the jetting and starting technique are to blame. I'm sure the Lectron will help out big time and I have had my share of hard to start bikes so I know the drill. I would also install a Rekluse so I'm not too worried.

    Any info/suggestions are greatly appreciated
  2. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    You say you raced at Delaware; where are you located? I raced at Delaware as well, am local, and would be happy to let you ride my 300 (sometime, racing schedule is pretty packed).

    I think the need for power depends on how fast you are. The only time I used the bike's power in that race was the final test, the long grass track section. Otherwise, I think a 165 would have been nice in the muck, although I do love the 300's ability to lug. In fact, I bet a 165 would have had enough power in that fast section, you need to keep it on the pipe... But, I am a C-rider, the fast guys use more power for sure.

    I think that, while it's nice to have the power sometimes, is it going to be worth it to lose the lightness of the 165 the rest of the time? For most of the enduros around here, probably not...
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  3. Dirtdame Administrator

    Location:
    Rock Springs Wy
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300,13 WR125,18 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    17 Beta Xtrainer
    The 300 is pure torque. It is the bike to have when you are in a tough section, especially on a hillside, where you can get all of that brutal torque finessed through the throttle, to get you through the section from right where you got hung up. It's for a quick blip, when you come upon a rocky obstacle and you want the most efficient wheel lift you can get. It is also great for anywhere there is mud or sand. For me, it is easier than a smaller displacement bike to get up to speed on poor traction surfaces. The chassis is a bit more stable than that of a the 125 based bike in high speed terrain too.
  4. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    IMHO...

    find a 2000-04 WR or CR 250 and go for it. I actually like the 250 a lot better than the 300. The 300 seems to stick pistons, hard to start, hard to jet etc in comparison to the 250. I also love the 2000-04 platform and ergonomics. I have owned and rode piles of all generations of these bikes. If you can find a 02 CR250 grab it ASAP. I did very little to mine and it is a fantastic bike. The motor is awesome. all stock except for a Lectron carb and is amazing. Did a gnarly ride yesterday. Traded off with a TE310, KTM350 and WR250 and all said they loved my old 02 CR250 and did not want to give it back. As you might know I also own a very nice 04 CR125 all decked out and with a 165 kit. Most fun bike ever. But I get what you are saying and the 250's extra power is more useful than the 125 amazing handling and feel many times. We ride a ton of technical steep stuff and the 250 with the trials tire makes it crazy EZ. I am picking the hard lines for fun when my friends are struggling to make the hill at all. Love it. And yes, very nice to have interchangeable parts.

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  5. shrubitup Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Seattle WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '00 TE610 (pretty much a WXE610)
    Other Motorcycles:
    Husaberg FE450, KTM 200EXC, Triumph
    1 Ergos are spacious I'm 6 two too
    2 handling said to have improved over previous efforts. I'm biased and like it
    3 power is stronger and less smooth than a Ktm 300 but I like that! The Ktm 300 lacks charecter IMO. That said, gobs of useful power compared to a yz250
    4 motor is an old design so it's heavy. Fuel carried high on bike yet it changes direction very easily
    5 good ground clearance - haven't whacked toes needlessly. Forks a little soft so increase compression. I broke three toes last summer on a yz 450 so this is important to me.
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  6. msmith345 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Shawnee, KS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '12 WR250, '92 360, '80 390
    Other Motorcycles:
    '72 Yamaha R5, '17 SV650
    Given a choice between a 250 and a 300, I'd go with the 360 :thumbsup:

    Mine started as a 300, I trashed that engine after a lot of racing. Picked up a 360 and swapped the engine to finish out the season, learned to love it's brutish nature (and I don't drop that word...ever). Rebuilt my 300 as a 250 thinking it would be a better enduro weapon, was wrong and found it wasn't as forgiving, needed to be ran harder, and in such it sucks a lot more gas down than my 300 (or 360) did. So, I much prefer the 300 over the 250 for the extreme technical stuff. 250 is fun for open flowy courses, but that just doesn't happen that often. I again prefer the 360 over the 300, as it is to the 300 what the 300 is to the 250. So, the next project down the line for me is going to be a fully built out 360 in the newest frame I can find.

    The 250 will ride closer in style to your 165 though, I imagine.
  7. oregonsage 4st Clerk

    Location:
    Dry Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FX450
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha DT400 x 2, BMW G310R
    Get a 449 and enjoy the wonders of EFI !
  8. Tommy V Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2002 WB165
    Other Motorcycles:
    GasGas TXT280 trials
    Kyle, thanks for the offer. Im in North Jersey but sometimes ride in S.Jersey, maybe we can meet up sometime. It was the last section of Delaware that convinced me. The 165 was awesome in the tight stuff!
    I really like the idea of finding an '02 CR250 because I can set it up exactly like my 165, not to mention I've seen these for sale pretty cheap at times, just not now LOL. I'm going to keep an eye out!
    What is the mileage like on the CR250 with the lectron?
  9. Tommy V Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2002 WB165
    Other Motorcycles:
    GasGas TXT280 trials
    Oregonsage; I had a BMW G450X, got it dialed in as good as I could but it was a wacky handling bike to say the least. I know Husky improved it but still not sold
  10. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    23-24 in tight woods gnar. Lots of steep climbs.
  11. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
  12. Tommy V Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2002 WB165
    Other Motorcycles:
    GasGas TXT280 trials
    Thanks, I will def check it out!
  13. ks9mm Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 TE 125
    Other Motorcycles:
    2014 Beta 300RR
    I am in north nj if you want to try my 09 300. Paramus area

    Pm me.
  14. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    Sure thing. I'd love an opportunity to try out a 165, I've never been able to ride one. I'm busy the next 3 weekends (vacation and then 2 ECEA enduros), but maybe after that we can meet up.

    For what it's worth, I get around 25 mpg on my 300, obviously very much depending on terrain. I usually hit reserve around 50-60 miles. If I'm really getting after it, it's less than 50, but I've gone over 60 on trails and dirt roads in south Jersey.
  15. Tommy V Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2002 WB165
    Other Motorcycles:
    GasGas TXT280 trials
    Thanks ks9mm. Will do
    Kyle, are you riding the RORR enduro? I am signed up already
  16. Kyle Tarry Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 WR 300, 2006 TE 610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Monster S2R 800
    Yes, I will be at RORR. I have not registered yet, thanks for the reminder, I will do that today! :thumbsup:

    I am also planning on being at HMDR the following weekend.
  17. Toro618 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr125
    My buddy just bought a 2009 WR250 with a rekluse pro, and I rode it back to back with my 2014 KTM 350 XCW. Except on some very slippery sections, the WR250 will swallow the 350 xcw in every way you can imagine. Throw on rear trials tires, and there will be NO exceptions.
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  18. Steve Kanya Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Yep, I had a trials tire on that bike and even in the rain and mud it was like cheating. Uphills were a joke, stop and laugh at your buddy stuck on the hill, and pull away with one hand on the bars. I'd give Pete the tire but I put truck studs in it. 803s rule w/ 6 lbs. and heavy tube. FWIW, the JD kit turned the 250 into a monster, unreal power. I owe you a beer BTW.