1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

250-500cc WR 360 Smoking alot

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by EURO1215, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
    Hello everyone. I have a simple question, can 2 stroke eat oil from the bottom engine? like if sealing would be gone ? and how can i know ?
    I have problem now since i made a mistake with oil mixing, tried to start the bike, and then big bang came out of the exhaust, thats when i realised i *bit* overdone it with the oil. put a new gas there, and now its smoking as hell and iam not sure if some gas stayed in carb or its taking oil from engine... ( could the bang tear the sealing ?).

    Yes, i would clean the carburator (would take time) or leave the bike running but it chokes immidietly after few seconds.

    soo just a quick question, can engine oil (bottom, transmission) come to cylinder?

    Thanks :)
  2. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
  3. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    Yes, transmission oil can get in the cylinder in the crank seals are bad.
  4. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
    Thank you very much .) and how could i recognize that its transmission oil please ?
  5. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Drop the tranny oil and measure it, pour it back in and start the bike.
    Take the bike for a little ride like around the block.
    If the bike is excessively smoking (like pouring out) from the moment you take off to say 100m, turn back and put the bike on the stand and let cool.
    Drop the oil again and measure.

    A better way is to do a vacuum test or leak down test, if the gauge starts to drop then the seals are gone.

    Whatever the case, excessive smoke (like pouring out) from the bike is a big indication that clutch side crank seal is leaking...in fact the smell of the exhaust will be different depending on the type of 2t mix you use.
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  6. Miezie666 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2x YZ 125, 1x YZ250 2005, XT600 2KF
    the oil seal dimensions are 40x25x7mm

    i had this a couple of times on older WR250s- they tend to leak after 20years of use... ;-)
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  7. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
    YUP ! thank you very much! looks like it will be the clutch crank seal then. its really pouring out from exhaust, that mess is everywhere and the smell is different from the oil i mix into gas. seems like that will be it, thank you very much ill have look on the clutch side crank seal then.
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  8. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Unfortunately, you'll have to split the cases to change the seals.
  9. Miezie666 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2x YZ 125, 1x YZ250 2005, XT600 2KF

    Why?
    I did remove the clutch basket and the primary drive gear to get access to the seal...
  10. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    No problems with this method but personally and only my opinon, and if you have the tools and can be stuffed, l like the piece of mind of replacing the bearings and seals on both side just a because l've dissembled half the motor whilst l'm at it, might as well do the bottom end - that tranny fluid has entered the bearing, for how long and often you change tranny that's the question, but the tranny oil is contaminated with clutch fibres and possibly metal flakes all mixing about in your bearing.
  11. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
    oh damn, i hope not, i had that engine splitted 3 months ago soo i could stuff in a new con rod and the bearings are completely new.... what an timing. Well lets see then and hope nothing bad happend, thank you very much .)
  12. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Yup just go in the side screw a self tapper in the seal hoick it out and put a fresh one in, i had too do this on a rebuilt motor with only 4 days running on it as i put the seal in squiffy. My bad its fine now tho, be very careful not to damage the crankshaft where the seal runs Euro1215
  13. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    have you done a leak down test yet????
    if not then wait to panic till you do
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  14. 84scrambler Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    mid Florida
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 xc 250, 85 wrx 250, 79 wr 250
    Just drain the trans. oil and ride it no further than around your house 1 time and you should notice a huge difference in smoke. Actually you will notice a difference when you start it and warm it up also.
  15. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
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    Yeeep..... didnt last too long, Three months. Do i need original one guys ? They say everywhere that even unoriginal lasts the same. Maybe bad coincidence?
  16. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
    i wonder if there are some special specifications for the sealing, like does the color matter ? and which one exactly should i buy ? thanks guys
  17. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    A nitrile oil seal will be fine you can pick one up for a few euros, the key is instillation if its even slightly out of square then it will last no time.
  18. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000
    alright thank you ! .)
  19. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    No problem Euro.
    How do you like the torque of the 360?
    Any questions parts help for the 2000's 360 just pm i get alerts via email so will be quick to respond.
  20. EURO1215 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Czech Republic
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 360 2000

    Thank you .)
    I really love the power of the bike ! Its a goddamn tractor .D it goes nicely at small rpms, and gets even more angry at more rpms. Just love it .)